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by winnieho on Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:12 am
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Have been reading the rave reviews about this Kiboko bag on this site. I need a bigger photo backpack, but I don't want to be hand holding my laptop (except to pass weight restrictions at the gate) Just wondering where you guys put your laptop?
 

by E.J. Peiker on Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:20 am
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The Kiboko was designed as a photo only backpack. I'm sure Andy will jump in.

I put my laptop in a Targus neoprene computer bag. The whole bag weighs under a pound.
 

by thedigitalbean on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:07 am
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Like E.J. said the Kiboko design was intentional. I think Andy explains why on the website somewhere. I carry my laptop in a Think Tank Artificial Intelligence as most (if not all) will allow a laptop as an additional piece of carryon.
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by milmoejoe on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:18 am
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I also use a Think Tank bag for the laptop. Urban Disguise 60 is the max size for 2nd "personal item", which fits under the seat and also holds a ton of gear.

I was reluctant to be without the laptop compartment at first, but in hindsight, it was a waste of space 90% of the time in the field!
 

by Greg Downing on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:34 am
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I too use an Urban Disguise 60.

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by abiggs on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:07 pm
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This is a great question, and one that needs answering.

First of all, almost all airlines in the world allow for a personal item to be carried onto an aircraft, and I believe that this personal item should be a laptop computer bag. So why doesn't the Kiboko bag allow for a computer? Here goes. Let's say that a bag is designed to carry 30 or 40 pounds of camera gear. If we design the bag to accommodate 5 or 10 more pounds, all of our stitching, zippers and areas of wear and tear will have to be beefed up. Suddenly our 4 pound bag becomes 4.5 or 5 pounds. We have designed the Kiboko bag to be a camera bag, and adding unnecessary weight means we have to add more weight to the bag. It is kind of ironic, actually, that more weight is needed to carry more weight. You will be amazed at how much weight the Kiboko bag can carry, as the butterfly storage system opens up more possibilities for configuration, as well as more gear can be put inside. This increase in gear is already a design challenge, and adding the laptop computer weight adds even more design challenges.

Since we are all nature photographers here, how often have you found the need to use your laptop out in the field while shooting? Perhaps a few times, but mostly not at all. So carrying a laptop computer would only be for travel, and in that instance you are better off bringing a small laptop bag anyway.

I hope this all makes sense. I am always trying to push the boundaries with new designs, and I am trying to design a way of transporting a laptop computer with the Kiboko bag, but at this time I haven't been able to figure out a way that would not add more weight to the bag, and would not compromise the usability either.
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by winnieho on Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:21 pm
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Thanks everyone & Andy for your helpful explanations.
 

by winnieho on Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:09 am
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Hey Andy, maybe you would consider a lightweight computer case that may be easily attached to the kiboko bag, maybe use the D-rings. This would be a popular accessory by the sounds of things. Cheers.
 

by abiggs on Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:49 am
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Absolutely, Winnie. I don't want to promise anything, but this is certainly one of the designs that we are prototyping.
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