Website building with Frontpage question

Hi all. I am in the early stages of constructing a personal website using MS Frontpage and I have viewed it online in Internet Explorer, Netscape and Mozilla browsers. For some reason, and I'm probably overlooking something obvious, the links only work in IE, not in Netscape or Mozilla. Is there a setting in Frontpage that I am missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

Is your site online? If so give us your URL so we can take a look at it.

Not to my knowledge, I do my site in FP but don't have that problem. Are you sure it isn't just in preview mode where the links only work in IE?

Thanks for the responses. E.J., I'm online. Got my domain, my server and all that jazz and have visited the site on IE. I'm just learning this stuff so I'm not really sure how the site is going as far as image sizing and load times but here's the URL if you want to take a look http://www.rocksandroots.com. Remember, I am a complete novice at this so if it's all screwy you'll understand why! Thanks!

Mary,

I am not all that familiar with FP but do know that it can sometimes produce a bunch of unnecessary code. I tried your site out on both IE and Netscape and ran into the same problem with Netscape. I wonder if trying to re-create the links may do the trick. If not someone around here who knows the HTML language may be able to figure it out. I will check with a friend and get back to you.

BTW the site looks really good so far!

Thanks Greg! Appreciate your taking the time to look at the site. I think I'll try to redo those links today and see what happens. Maybe it's just the ones on the homepage that have a problem which prevent me from navigating any further in the site while in Netscape. Thanks for anything you might be able to sueeze out of your HTML expert.

Mary Dennis wrote:Thanks Greg! Appreciate your taking the time to look at the site. I think I'll try to redo those links today and see what happens. Maybe it's just the ones on the homepage that have a problem which prevent me from navigating any further in the site while in Netscape. Thanks for anything you might be able to sueeze out of your HTML expert.

Before redoing the links try this ...
I have been looking at the code from your site and there is some IE centric coding in there that is potentially the issue you are seeing. Rather than change the specifics try changing the Compatability mode in FrontPage and resave, deploy and retest.
To change compatability in FrontPage go to Tools-->Page Options-->Compatability Tab.
Select the Browsers Drop Down List and select Both Internet Explorer and Navigator
Select the Browser Versions Drop Down List and select 5.0 and later
Find out what server you are uploading to -- your provider can help you with that but the key here is to not use Front Page Extensions if your service provider does not have them installed on the web server.

I'll keep digging in the code to see what I find -- current suspect is use of if logic surrounding vml tags. Not sure if Netscape supports it.

Mary, Brian is it.

I hope he can help you figure this out.

Thanks Brian!

Mary,

If you can, don't waste your time with Front Page. Try Macromedia Dreamweaver MX or 2004. Simply the best program and you get full control unlike FP.

Thanks guys.

Brian, I am not very well versed in HTML speak but here's what I know: My provider has Frontpage extensions that can be turned on and off and at this time I have them turned on. I have the compatibiility set as you have described although I am unsure about the server type. I will check that out at my provider's website. I am using ValueWeb as the provider if that means anything at all, if they have any known quirks or anything like that. Sure appreciate you checking into things for me.

Maxis, you may be right about FP, but at this point I am knee deep into this so I plan to forge ahead and figure it out unless it becomes futile.

Mary Dennis wrote:Thanks guys.

Brian, I am not very well versed in HTML speak but here's what I know: My provider has Frontpage extensions that can be turned on and off and at this time I have them turned on. I have the compatibiility set as you have described although I am unsure about the server type. I will check that out at my provider's website. I am using ValueWeb as the provider if that means anything at all, if they have any known quirks or anything like that. Sure appreciate you checking into things for me.

Maxis, you may be right about FP, but at this point I am knee deep into this so I plan to forge ahead and figure it out unless it becomes futile.

I played around with compatability and given the page is already written, the code is not showing any difference.
From what I can see it seems that the Image002 is in the foreground and as an image map NetScape is ignoring the links behind it. I am trying a few things with that portion of the code to see if a compromise can be found.
FWIW I have always found hardship in making sites work for both Netscape and IE. About two years ago I gave up on Netscape since I just did not have the time to fight compatability.

First off, thanks Brian for taking the time to explore this problem. It is hugely appreciated. I checked with the provider and they use Linux system with Apache servers, so I have it set for that now and no difference on Netscape. Interesting about the compatibilty problems you mention. Seems like something that could be remedied pretty easily these days... Anyway, I will check into image 002 and see what's up there. Thank you again for your help and please don't feel you have to spend too much time on this...it may just come down to having it viewable with IE for the time being.

Hmmmm. I use FP2002 and have never had any problems with NS or IE. Can't test your site now cuz I only use IE on this machine.

http://www.kgcphoto.com

Mary Dennis wrote:First off, thanks Brian for taking the time to explore this problem. It is hugely appreciated. I checked with the provider and they use Linux system with Apache servers, so I have it set for that now and no difference on Netscape. Interesting about the compatibilty problems you mention. Seems like something that could be remedied pretty easily these days... Anyway, I will check into image 002 and see what's up there. Thank you again for your help and please don't feel you have to spend too much time on this...it may just come down to having it viewable with IE for the time being.

Hi Mary -- I fixed the links so they work in Both IE and NetScape.
As suspected the use of vml was the culprit where if supported you have HREF links otherwise if not supported a generic gif was displayed which is what you got in Netscape.
I removed the uses of vml surrounding the link section but did not go any further than that -- it is enough of a change to get you going. I have sent you a PM with the updated code.
If you start a new page uncheck VML from the compatability tab in page options.

Looking forward to seeing the final results.
Brian

Wow Brian, thanks! I will sit down a little later today and see if I can figure this all out. I think I get what you did and can't tell you how much I appreciate this. I'll keep you posted. What an AWESOME resource you are!

Mary Dennis wrote:Wow Brian, thanks! I will sit down a little later today and see if I can figure this all out. I think I get what you did and can't tell you how much I appreciate this. I'll keep you posted. What an AWESOME resource you are!

No problem -- my greatest weakness is a good challenge and code compatability across browsers is always a good one to tackle.

*note, the style of change I made will probably need to be included in other pages you have. Feel free to email me another page exhibiting the same linke issue and I'll draw a step by step of what you need to do to execute the change.