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by BrianS on Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:24 pm
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Maxis wrote:I have a NO RIGHT CLICK SCRIPT on all pages in my websites. Work's just fine for me. :lol:
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by Maxis Gamez on Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:18 pm
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BrianS wrote:
Maxis wrote:I have a NO RIGHT CLICK SCRIPT on all pages in my websites. Work's just fine for me. :lol:

I like the "No Soup For You" comment...unfortunately really quick work-around you may not be aware of.
So what is your point? that you know how to get around? like I respond to another NSN member. In the INTERNET world nothing is safe. If you build a website to show your images you are taking the risk, but who cares I drive to my local camera store taking a risk to get kill, I eat meat and I'm taking a risk. If people want to still your images they will do it no matter what, if the can rob a bank imagine what they can do with your images.

My point is that I don't worry about that, I try to let the user know that I'm aware of people stilling images that's all. If they want the image? they will get the image. Also my posting tips and tricks on how to do such low acts you are helping them. :wink:
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by BrianS on Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:07 am
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Maxis wrote: So what is your point? that you know how to get around? like I respond to another NSN member. In the INTERNET world nothing is safe. If you build a website to show your images you are taking the risk, but who cares I drive to my local camera store taking a risk to get kill, I eat meat and I'm taking a risk. If people want to still your images they will do it no matter what, if the can rob a bank imagine what they can do with your images.

My point is that I don't worry about that, I try to let the user know that I'm aware of people stilling images that's all. If they want the image? they will get the image. Also my posting tips and tricks on how to do such low acts you are helping them. :wink:
Just trying to provide more insight into web construction and its lack of security.
I didn't want anyone reading this thread to walk away with the impression that a block of a right click was a good measure of security.
In my case I use it as a means of providing copyright information to the visitor with the hope they have some level of understanding to what a copyright is.
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by Maxis Gamez on Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:01 am
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Bryan,

I think it was a great idea to remove your post. Trust me we all know what you know.
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by BrianS on Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:47 am
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Maxis wrote:Bryan,

I think it was a great idea to remove your post. Trust me we all know what you know.
No problem -- you may also want to edit your previous email and remove or edit the quote.
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by Maxis Gamez on Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:50 am
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I did.
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by Scott A. Flaherty on Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:11 pm
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I'm not saying give up and don't try any preventative measures. Just keep in mind that if someone really wants to take your images from the web, they will more than likely succeed. Most of the security techniques discussed in this thread will only deter the casual (lazy) thief. By all means implement some of them, but don't think that you are 100% safe from theft. If it appears on your monitor, it can be captured.
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by Maxis Gamez on Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:24 pm
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Scott A. Flaherty wrote: I'm not saying give up and don't try any preventative measures. Just keep in mind that if someone really wants to take your images from the web, they will more than likely succeed. Most of the security techniques discussed in this thread will only deter the casual (lazy) thief. By all means implement some of them, but don't think that you are 100% safe from theft. If it appears on your monitor, it can be captured.
What?? Brian was asked to delete his tip on how to "tips", why are you point this out again? We all know that there are several ways to still an image WE ALL KNOW THAT. No reason to keep posting tips and tricks about how to do it.

As far as images been safe online? you wrote almost what I wrote. :roll:
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by Scott A. Flaherty on Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:34 pm
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I'm sorry about reiterating what you said Maxis. I must not have read the last page of posts before entering my message. It still doesn't validate your yelling though (text in CAPS). Let's try to exercise some Internet etiquette.

Being a software engineer and doing a lot of work with Internet security issues, I always find it amazing that so many people want to keep their heads in the sand and not talk about the different techniques that are being used to steal their hard work. The people who would steal the images from your web site already know many of the ways to do it. The people who don't know, are the photographers that are having their hard work stolen. Let's arm the photographers with knowledge, the theives already have it.

Chas' idea of putting a watermark in the image is a good one. Yes, someone can still steal the image and clone out the watermark, but at least you would know that the person in question is purposely violating your copyright.
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by Chas on Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:42 pm
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Scott A. Flaherty wrote:I'm sorry about reiterating what you said Maxis. I must not have read the last page of posts before entering my message. It still doesn't validate your yelling though (text in CAPS). Let's try to exercise some Internet etiquette.

Being a software engineer and doing a lot of work with Internet security issues, I always find it amazing that so many people want to keep their heads in the sand and not talk about the different techniques that are being used to steal their hard work. The people who would steal the images from your web site already know many of the ways to do it. The people who don't know, are the photographers that are having their hard work stolen. Let's arm the photographers with knowledge, the theives already have it.

Chas' idea of putting a watermark in the image is a good one. Yes, someone can still steal the image and clone out the watermark, but at least you would know that the person in question is purposely violating your copyright.
Scott, well said and your point is well taken. It put things in perspective.

My intent in using a watermark, and copyright within the image is exactly as you have stated - there is no mistake of intent or accountability if these are removed. My watermarks will remain visable, I hope others can see past them and recoginize their value, as I value my imagery.

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by Greg Downing on Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:04 am
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NOTICE:

I edited a few posts in this thread so as not to point out specific steps to work around some of the measures photographers take to protect their images. We don't want this information posted and archived in this forum. We all know there are work-arounds for just about anything but spelling them out here could be detrimental to us all if the information gets in the wrong hands. If people want this information they can find it elsewhere, but let's not inform them here.

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by Maxis Gamez on Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:18 am
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Greg,

I don't think it can be more clear than that! :lol:

Thanks!
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by Maxis Gamez on Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:23 am
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Scott A. Flaherty wrote:I'm sorry about reiterating what you said Maxis. I must not have read the last page of posts before entering my message. It still doesn't validate your yelling though (text in CAPS). Let's try to exercise some Internet etiquette.

Being a software engineer and doing a lot of work with Internet security issues, I always find it amazing that so many people want to keep their heads in the sand and not talk about the different techniques that are being used to steal their hard work. The people who would steal the images from your web site already know many of the ways to do it. The people who don't know, are the photographers that are having their hard work stolen. Let's arm the photographers with knowledge, the theives already have it.

Chas' idea of putting a watermark in the image is a good one. Yes, someone can still steal the image and clone out the watermark, but at least you would know that the person in question is purposely violating your copyright.
Scott,

I really don't feel the need to talk about ways of taking images from others people website. As a web designer I think I already know a lot of ways but I don't like when people speak those tips in a forum like this.

Chas watermark idea will help as well.
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