Round-Up and the Neonics…….the appalling truth.

The application of these chemicals is killing our natural systems at the base of the food web, while the companies that make them are convincing us that they are enhancing our lives.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/973/154/ ... h-defects/

I am not sure if you can still sign this petition.  But please...just take a moment to read the first paragraph.  

Round-Up and the apathy that the general American population has toward the destruction of our wildflowers, is one root cause of the demise of the Monarch.  The other of course, being the loss of their wintering forest habitat in Mexico.

I am convinced that most Americans still do not even know this is happening.  But we are slowly gaining. 

I am convinced that most Americans are not sure what wildflowers are anymore….that most every species of herb out there is really a "weed" to them now.  

And that is the perversion that Monsanto and the other poison-producing companies have created.  

Please keep spreading the word.  We really are gaining ground on this issue.  The truth will ultimately be revealed to the masses.   After the Monarch  plight is reversed, I want the same benefit to be applied to all the lepidopterans, in fact, all the native insects.  Most of them depend on our wild herbs, and most of the birds depend on these native insects.  So when the herbicide is used, the entire system is damaged.  

Then when neonicotinoids (Bayer corporation) are added to the plants to kill the insects, what chance at all do our terrestrial systems have for the future?  They have already been severely damaged. 

See, Bayer promoted Neonics as the perfect answer because they created a way to make this chemical systemic…to become part of the plant itself.  So this way (Bayer contends), the neonics only kill the target insect; i.e. the insect that is eating the plant.  Well guess what?  Eating plants is what the majority of the insects do.  It is a natural process and one that in the past, has been taken for granted as part of the natural food web.  That is becoming less and less the case.  We need to re-consider what we are letting happen to our native insects.

Remember, the enemies are twofold:  The herbicides (mainly Round-Up or glyphosate) and also the insecticides (neonicotinoids).  

Neonics are a horrible family of nerve poisons that are killing our native insects which (in turn) is decreasing the biomass of our native birds.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonicotinoid

We must take the pressure off our plants and our insects.  It has been a fight and will continue to be so.  

The chemical companies are making billions off this.  So they will do whatever it takes to stop us from banning their poisons….while continuing to portray them as enhancing our lives..  

But more people are getting on board because more people are beginning to understand the lies.     

Please seek the truth yourselves and thanks for continuing to pass the word.

Robert King

http://itsaboutnature.net

One part of the equation is the development of genetically modified plants which are resistant to round up. This allows mass spraying of crops where everything is killed but the crop. Grass, wheat, and rape seed are now running wild in Oregon with GMO and destroying our export market.

Mike in O wrote:One part of the equation is the development of genetically modified plants which are resistant to round up.

And it's not just RoundUp:

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/20 ... eed-killer

and other components in RoundUp:

http://www.gmoseralini.org/roundup-is-m ... gen-study/

This study has been tried to be discredited but if you want to learn more about the support for the reasons, look here:

http://www.naturescapes.net/forums/view ... 7&t=249098

and a related link to the dangers of RoundUp:

http://naturalsociety.com/genetically-m ... mortality/

Joe

Mike in O wrote:One part of the equation is the development of genetically modified plants which are resistant to round up.  This allows mass spraying of crops where everything is killed but the crop.  Grass, wheat, and rape seed are now running wild in Oregon with GMO and destroying our export market.

Would you please clarify what you are saying?  I am not sure I understand.

Foreign gov'ts refuse to accept genetically modified plants seeds for the most part.

Robert,

PM sent

Joe

Mike in O wrote:Foreign gov'ts refuse to accept genetically modified plants seeds for the most part.

Oh, I did not know that.  We've sure made a mess of things.

This is much worse than I was aware of:  Maybe we are not making any progress at all.      If we continue to discuss it, we are making progress. 

Joe, I now have read several of your links.  I will read more later.  But for now, I will only make the following comment and then go back to sleeping:


So can we say that Monsanto has created environmental poisons that are self-perpetuating?  Not suggesting it was purposeful.  But it is the nature of nature to adapt to stress.  Here, plants have adapted and so more toxin is needed to be lethal to them.  Couple that with this industry's now-ability to create plants that can withstand more and more toxins.  And nothing but the agricultural plants that they favor will be able to survive increasing amounts of toxin.  What a wonderful world our children will inherit from the EPA and the chemical companies.    

Am I catching on now?  


Just yesterday, a terribly chilling scenario struck me:  In the future, this issue could become deeply polarizing, with "the other side" confronting anti-pesticide advocates (such as me) with this:  "So you are saying that the environment is more important than feeding the people of the world?"


And the truth is that "Yes, that is exactly one of the things that I am saying and that I deeply believe":

     >  First, I did not create this mess, but it is my nature that they are destroying!  

     >  Second, until and unless world governments agree that limiting human population growth is paramount to survival, we will continue to race (at an ever-increasing rate) toward collapse….never mind the nature that I love.

People such as me need to just get away from populations.  That is one major reason I left Florida as a wildlife biologist.  The killing of nature was killing me….while the Corp of Engineers keeps saying that the Everglades are recovering.   Florida just surpassed New York in human population.  As a region is "developed" to hold more people, where do you think the wildlife ends up:  squished in the roads.  No bureaucrat talks about that.  No bureaucrat tackles the issue of over-population.  Florida allows a net increase of 800 new residents….per day!

And yes, this is at the root of the problem.

Back in the 18th century, Robert Stephen Malthus foresaw the problems of unchecked human population growth.  Read the Malthusian Theory.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus

Robert King
http://itsaboutnature.net

Here's a link to an article on a new book about GMOs safety, etc.:

http://sustainablepulse.com/2015/03/04/ ... Qe_YqN5mSP

Joe

yes…later,  it is 2 am est. :)  Thanks for all the information Joe.  I will open and read at least some of them later.  btw, i did read the pm. 

Monsanto agrees to settlement with states other than Oregon that was harmed.
http://www.ktvz.com/news/monsanto-to-pa ... s/31875354

And now this:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... cinogenic-

http://news.yahoo.com/popular-weed-kill ... 48855.html

Joe

A surprising, although probably accidental, admission by a Monsanto employee:

http://www.infowars.com/monsanto-employ ... cientists/

Joe

Thanks again Joe!  We need this information.  The truth is coming out.  I guess I knew about the carcinogenetic properties.  I mean, it only makes sense. 

But I love that last link!  We knew it was happening didn't we?  But knowing it and proving it are two different things.  They are miles apart.   

Now this PhD. comes out and admits it!  Wonderful!  Great news!

Robert

Here's a new article:

http://ecowatch.com/2015/05/02/david-su ... -milkweed/

Joe

More on the loss of bees:

http://news.yahoo.com/u-honeybee-losses ... ector.html

Joe