Panasonic officially introduces the full frame S1 and S1R...

E.J. Peiker wrote:... at 24 and 47 megapixel AND THE HAVE EYE AF for birds!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course there aren't any lenses appropriate for bird photography at least for now but as I've been saying, bird photography is about to change for the better in a very radical way especially as other manufacturers build this in.  Point the camera at the bird, it finds the eye and tracks it automatically anywhere in the frame.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/018671853 ... -body-only
https://www.dpreview.com/news/802646324 ... led-4k-30p

DChan wrote:DPReview TV: 10 cool things you may have missed about the Panasonic S1 and S1R Series


"Deep learning" AF...Olympus has it, Panasonic has it and Sony will have it. Nikon? Canon?


(starting at 6:40)

Mike in O wrote:

DChan wrote:DPReview TV: 10 cool things you may have missed about the Panasonic S1 and S1R Series


"Deep learning" AF...Olympus has it, Panasonic has it and Sony will have it. Nikon? Canon?


(starting at 6:40)

Sony has had it for years...can you register faces with any camera but Sony?

Mike in O wrote:

DChan wrote:DPReview TV: 10 cool things you may have missed about the Panasonic S1 and S1R Series


"Deep learning" AF...Olympus has it, Panasonic has it and Sony will have it. Nikon? Canon?


(starting at 6:40)

Sony has had it for years...can you register faces with any camera but Sony?

Machine-learning-based autofocus
Perhaps the most recognizably new capability of the E-M1X is autofocus that has been trained by machine learning to recognize and focus on specific types of subjects. This is one of the first times a manufacturer has made clear it's done this (though Sony has acknowledged taking a similar approach, since Olympus first told us this)....

Now, the fun part. The a6400's AF system is based largely on the sports-oriented a9: at least after it receives a pair of firmware updates this Spring and Summer. Besides a speed boost compared to the a6300, the camera can take advantage of Sony's Real-time Eye AF and Real-time Tracking features.
Real-time Tracking uses host of predictive and recognition algorithms, as well face and eye detection trained by machine learning. Users can specify a subject by placing it under the AF point, then initiate AF and have the camera track it around frame. If the subject is a face, the camera will automatically use face and eye detection. But even if your subject looks away, the camera reverts to the more generic 'Real-time tracking' mode, to stay in focus. If your subject looks back at the camera, it'll switch back to Eye AF.
Real-time Tracking uses all kinds of data - color, depth, pattern recognition - to recognize and track subjects at up to 11 fps. We've been impressed by what we've seen of it so far: it works well for nearly any subject: a human, a dog, a soccer ball, meaning you can use the same AF mode for most subjects. This video from Sony demonstrates the two new real-time AF features.
After an update this summer, the a6400's Eye AF will be expanded to work for pets and wildlife.

SantaFeJoe wrote:Here’s another article that seems to support what I suggested above:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18205 ... lease-date

And this says nothing about it, either:

https://na.panasonic.com/us/news/panasonic-launches-new-lumix-s-series-full-frame-mirrorless-cameras-lumix-s1r-and-lumix-s1

Joe

E.J. Peiker wrote:

SantaFeJoe wrote:Here’s another article that seems to support what I suggested above:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18205 ... lease-date

And this says nothing about it, either:

https://na.panasonic.com/us/news/panasonic-launches-new-lumix-s-series-full-frame-mirrorless-cameras-lumix-s1r-and-lumix-s1

Joe

I just reread and rewatched and you are right, they only comitted to the animal not the eye specifically, I mistakenly infered that from the context of the sentence...  My apologies!

But... we still have Sony with eye autodetect for animals coming (all of their examples were mammals so the bird question is unknown).  I am almost 100% certain that we will get to reliable bird eye detect in essentially all higher end mirrorless cameras in the next couple of years.

DChan wrote:Not good Panasonic, not good at all if true:

The TRUTH about the Panasonic S1 & S1R