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by Bill Lockhart on Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:07 pm
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Trev wrote:
Perhaps there only needs to be a site that lists a companies civil or criminal judgments, the rest is down to the individual to do their own research, like you or I would do.


The problem is that few states provide information about civil and criminal cases. Minnesota is unique, due to the leadership of my dear friend Sue Knudsen, a fabulous State Courts Administrator. I wrestled with the issue in Florida as a Deputy State Court Administrator and failed. I could not get the Florida Supreme Court to mandate such a system.

Thus you and I cannot get specific information about individuals across the states.

For all you know, your neighbor across the street embezzed funds, was convicted of a felony, and currently has 20 civil judgments against him.

Getting the information is the problem, especially among the courts.
 

by Trev on Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:26 pm
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I'm not from the States but I thought you had a freedom of information act, doesn't it cover this sort of thing, or have I got that all wrong?
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by Bill Lockhart on Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:41 pm
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Trev wrote:
I'm not from the States but I thought you had a freedom of information act, doesn't it cover this sort of thing, or have I got that all wrong?


Sure I can get the information, but let me explain. Florida has 67 counties. This means I have serach each county separately and pay a fee for each.

Compound that for 50 states.

Imagine the costs. Each tour provider would require a separate search and a separate fee.

Impossible to do without enormous resources.
 

by Trev on Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:24 pm
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Well good luck bill - I'm not sure what the answer is, perhaps it's just not viable!
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by RMSteck on Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:22 pm
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Reading through the remaining replies I really do hope that something can be done. I know in the portrait field which I was a member of for many years there were ways we found to get the message out about people who were in the field to take advantage of others but it is not easy and a constant battle. Rallying together with the backing of the PPA was the best way we found to combat those types of people. Does it still happen? Of course but coming together as a group of professionals really can and does make a difference.

Maybe I am naive in this field but I really do believe that people like this can be "outed" and things can change. I wish there were a way to enlighten the followers who have no idea his background and lies.
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by wynpotter on Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:35 pm
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I'm a bit late to the discussion but thought I'd offer my 2 cents.
The web site"Angie's List" seems to be doing for the general service contractors, what many here are trying to find, a way of relying on credible information to keep from being scammed.
Some here may already be a member of AL who might chime in on the way things work over there and if this category of Photo Tours could be incorporated into their format.
I'm a novice in photography even though I have been shooting for 25 yrs or more. If I were financially able to go on a Photo tour, Angie's List might be a place I would look to to glean info on different tour groups. Word of mouth would also be a way of discerning the good from the bad and the ugly.
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by neverspook on Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:19 pm
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Angie's List sounds a bit like RateMyMD - which I do find very useful in selecting a doctor.

Something like that might work for photo tours since it is essentially a clearing house for consumer reviews and experiences. RateMyMD is free for anyone to enter their comments and free for anyone to read the comments, and users know it is just the opinions of those who have commented and rated. If a doctor has 25 great reviews and one bad one, well, you can't please everyone all the time. But if a doctor has 25 bad reviews, that is one I would not be rushing to book an appointment with.

For those doctors I have seen and have also been rated on RateMyMD, there has been a lot of accuracy. The doctor who was sometimes helpful but who had a Jekyl and Hyde personality in my experience had reviews that said exactly that online. The doctor who was good but whose receptionist never answered the phone so it was near impossible to book an appointment - the reviews also accurately reflected that. It is not foolproof - one doctor who got decent reviews was condescending and totally misdiagnosed me - so you never know. But it is very useful nevertheless as a starting point and I think something similar might work for tour providers.

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by mhlambert on Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:00 pm
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I've been tracking Lissick since the Polar Bear fiasco and finally achieved some satisfaction:

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Location: Haines
Case number: AK12248279
Type: Warrant Arrest

Text: The Alaska State Troopers Juneau Post in cooperation with the Soldotna Post and the Haines Police Department conducted an investigation which resulted in the warrant arrest of Mark Owen Lissick, 61 yoa of Lake Tahoe CA. The arrest took place in Haines where Lissick was remanded for an outstanding warrant with bail set at $10,000.00 cash only.

Author: UTDB0
Received Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:08 AM and posted Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:12 AM
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(From http://dps.alaska.gov/PIO/dispatch/Trooper%20Dispatches%20of%2011-08-2012.20121108.txt)

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by Bill Lockhart on Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:26 pm
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mhlambert wrote:
I've been tracking Lissick since the Polar Bear fiasco and finally achieved some satisfaction:

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Location: Haines
Case number: AK12248279
Type: Warrant Arrest

Text: The Alaska State Troopers Juneau Post in cooperation with the Soldotna Post and the Haines Police Department conducted an investigation which resulted in the warrant arrest of Mark Owen Lissick, 61 yoa of Lake Tahoe CA. The arrest took place in Haines where Lissick was remanded for an outstanding warrant with bail set at $10,000.00 cash only.

Author: UTDB0
Received Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:08 AM and posted Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:12 AM
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(From http://dps.alaska.gov/PIO/dispatch/Trooper%20Dispatches%20of%2011-08-2012.20121108.txt)

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No wonder his attorney in California can't get in touch with him regarding my pending lawsuit. LOL!

You gotta love Alaska State Troopers, I bet Dave Coray is having a nice glass of Chardonnay about now.

I love it!
 

by Rocky Sharwell on Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:57 am
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Too funny.....
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by Bill Lockhart on Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:27 pm
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UPDATE

Just received an email from Dave Coray, owner of Silver Salmon Creek Lodge:

According to Coray:

Lissick spent two nights in jail, but was released by the court to allow him to finish his seminar. However, Lissick was required to post $300 per day in cash until November 13 when another bond hearing will be held. An arraignment on the bank fraud charge filed by Coray, will be held on November 16 at which time Lissick will have to plea to the charges.

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I wonder about all the folks who booked Lissick's tour in Haines. How would you react if your tour provider was arrested during the middle of your tour? I don't know about you, but I will be livid.
 

by Bill Lockhart on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:52 pm
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I looked at Alaska Court Records today, seems that Mr. Lissick was required to post a $10,000 cash bond, which he did. He was indicted for two felony charges that were transferred to the Alaska Superior Court which has the proper jurisdiction. The next significant date is December 4, 2012, a scheduled hearing on the indictment, likely requiring a formal plea, although this is not certain.

The saga continues.
 

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