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ADKShooter wrote:Not that I know any more than anyone else but my sense is that it will be a bit proportionately higher than the 500 pf to the 500 F4.0 because it is only 1/2 stop slower than the 800 F 5.6 instead of a full stop slower as is the 500 pf to it's counterpart. On the flip side may be a bit of a reduction from what I think will be a lack of a dedicated 1.4 converter which comes with the current 800 F5.6.  Having thought about it, I believe it will come in somewhere between $8,500 - $9,000.

Only 1/3 stop slower - f/5.6, f/6.3, f/7.1, f/8   

The main parameter that correlates with price is front element diameter, the larger the front element the more work needed to make it from casting, grinding through to polishing.  I went and plotted lens price vs front element diameter using prices from B&H for lens starting with the 300mm f4 PF lens right through to the 800mm f5.6, for Nikon and Canon: You can see names and prices on this plot: Quite clearly front element diameter correlates quite well with lens price even for the PF lenses.  An 800mm f6.3 is 127mm diameter or more or less the same as a 500mm f4.  You can see that Nikon puts a premium on their 800mm lens, probably becuase it's low volume and they think they can can do so without hurting sales,

ChrisRoss wrote:The main parameter that correlates with price is front element diameter, the larger the front element the more work needed to make it from casting, grinding through to polishing.  I went and plotted lens price vs front element diameter using prices from B&H for lens starting with the 300mm f4 PF lens right through to the 800mm f5.6, for Nikon and Canon:

You can see names and prices on this plot:

Quite clearly front element diameter correlates quite well with lens price even for the PF lenses.  An 800mm f6.3 is 127mm diameter or more or less the same as a 500mm f4.  You can see that Nikon puts a premium on their 800mm lens, probably becuase it's low volume and they think they can can do so without hurting sales,

Good analysis, that's why my guess is the price will be $10K or more. I hope to be wrong on that though, Nikon has really found great wildlife niche lenses. I still wish they'd made a 600mmf5.6 PF though.

Scott Fairbairn wrote:


Good analysis, that's why my guess is the price will be $10K or more. I hope to be wrong on that though, Nikon has really found great wildlife niche lenses. I still wish they'd made a 600mmf5.6 PF though.

Thanks Scott, definitely would be useful, and should work out at a similar price to a 300mm f2.8.

E.J. Peiker wrote:

ADKShooter wrote:Not that I know any more than anyone else but my sense is that it will be a bit proportionately higher than the 500 pf to the 500 F4.0 because it is only 1/2 stop slower than the 800 F 5.6 instead of a full stop slower as is the 500 pf to it's counterpart. On the flip side may be a bit of a reduction from what I think will be a lack of a dedicated 1.4 converter which comes with the current 800 F5.6.  Having thought about it, I believe it will come in somewhere between $8,500 - $9,000.

Only 1/3 stop slower - f/5.6, f/6.3, f/7.1, f/8   

Thanks for the (obvious ) correction EJ.   You can probably add another $500-$1,000 to my estimate as a result, lol !!!!!

ChrisRoss wrote:

Scott Fairbairn wrote:


Good analysis, that's why my guess is the price will be $10K or more. I hope to be wrong on that though, Nikon has really found great wildlife niche lenses. I still wish they'd made a 600mmf5.6 PF though.

Thanks Scott, definitely would be useful, and should work out at a similar price to a 300mm f2.8.

I continue to agree with Scott.  A 600mm F5.6pf at a competitive price would be a top seller.

Not sure I believe this price but

https://nikonrumors.com/2022/03/28/niko ... 3-kg.aspx/

6K? Too good to be true?

George DeCamp wrote:Not sure I believe this price but

https://nikonrumors.com/2022/03/28/niko ... 3-kg.aspx/

6K? Too good to be true?

They'd sell a ton of them, although it might take a year or more to fill all the orders.

Jared takes a test drive with a pre-production model:

Nikon 800mm f6.3 Hands-on

Joe

OMatt Irwin  previews new 800

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uwGwiSkIi ... ACAQ%3D%3D

George DeCamp wrote:OMatt Irwin  previews new 800

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uwGwiSkIi ... ACAQ%3D%3D

I can see the model just fine.

A short video with a pre-production model with Tom Mason. Note how he swings it around from the camera with one hand at about the 1:03 mark. I can’t believe that the mount didn't break. Must be fairly light!

https://youtu.be/Obb7i2f_iwQ

Joe

Maybe purely co-incidental, but Nikon USA is selling refurbished 500/5.6 PF for $2499! I've bought refurbished gear from here, and aside from the limited warranty,  they are as good as new.

Jim

Here it is:

B&H Price

Get out your credit card for this bargain!!!

Joe

$6500 and 5.25 pounds! Hello!!!

Wow, glad I was way off

E.J. Peiker wrote:Wow, glad I was way off

Yes, it's a touch below the line drawn through the 300m f4PF and 500mm PF alone so seems like a bit of a bargain really.

came in way less than I expected.