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Anyone using m43 next to full frame?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:12 am
by rene
I currently use Sony A9II/A7RIV with 200-600 and 400F2.8 and a few smaller lenses. I’m looking to get a m43 Olympus set up as my lightweight travel set up when I go away on my holidays with my family or when on weekends away with my wife. I was wondering if anyone uses M43 next to full frame and what the experiences are. I was looking at  12-40/7-14/40-150 with the new omdem1m3 body. I’m well aware of the shortcomings of the tiny sensor 
Thanks very much in advance 
Rene 

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:41 am
by mikeojohnson
Yes. I shoot Sony and Olympus, exactly the way you are thinking about it. I have a bad back so the Oly system is perfect for travel. I would suggest you consider two additions to the kit. First, the 1.4x for the 40-150. I also have a 12-100 that turns out to be the main lens when walking around.
Mike

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am
by sdaconsulting
Another option is to get a Sony APS-C body. They are quite small and will work with all the glass you already have, but you can also buy smaller lenses. The A6400 + 18-135 is basically as small as most of the m4/3 bodies + zooms, but you can interoperate with compact ff glass as desired (I use my MF landscape lenses often with my 6400/6500 bodies, like the Voigtlander 10/5.6, Loxia 21 etc.)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:27 pm
by DChan
Olympus plus Nikon (full and APS-C) here.

Don't just look at the size of the camera body; look at the sizes of the lenses, too,

For traveling, if you get the 12-100, you don't really need anything more. Besides, the 12-100 is the only other lens that has lens IS which can synchronize with the IBIS. Some people shot hand-held 10, 20 sec shot with that combo.

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:58 am
by Hoppy
I use Nikon Full frame with Olympus M43. Olympus my travel and hiking system plus just walking around. My last trip Hong Kong, NYC and eastern Canada for 3 months was 12-100/4, 300/4 and Laowa 7.5/2. Hardly used the 300mm so would only take again if I was certain I'd use it. I also have a whole raft of small primes but for a travel lens hard to compete with the 12-100/4 even if it is a tad big.

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:04 am
by Neilyb
As I said to a Canon shooting friend, who desperatey wanted to save weight, recently "Going Sony will save some weight on the body but the lenses are still full frame sized and will gain you little. If you really want to save weight have a look at Olympus"

I shoot Canon FF when serious and Oly for (non-photographic) travel, biking or hiking. Whilst I find the Oly provides great RAW files at lower ISO's I will not push it to beyond ISO2000 if I want to use the images for anything but social media. The bodies are stuffed full of tech but at the end of the day the sensor will always be a weak point but for family trips, long walks etc.I find carrying a 12-100 and 40-150 (plus 1.4TC) a much easier poposition than the 5D, 24-105 and 100-400.

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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:07 pm
by david fletcher
Neilyb wrote:As I said to a Canon shooting friend, who desperatey wanted to save weight, recently "Going Sony will save some weight on the body but the lenses are still full frame sized and will gain you little. If you really want to save weight have a look at Olympus"

I shoot Canon FF when serious and Oly for (non-photographic) travel, biking or hiking. Whilst I find the Oly provides great RAW files at lower ISO's I will not push it to beyond ISO2000 if I want to use the images for anything but social media. The bodies are stuffed full of tech but at the end of the day the sensor will always be a weak point but for family trips, long walks etc.I find carrying a 12-100 and 80-150 (plus 1.4TC) a much easier poposition than the 5D, 24-105 and 100-400.
Lots of good old fashioned common sense and truth in the above. 

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:01 pm
by rene
Thank for the replies. I am due to get Olympus set (12-40/4-150+1.4 converter and Panasonic 8-18) to test. No intention to replace the Sony. I am well ware the shortcomings of the sensor
Rene

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:17 pm
by DChan
With the Olympus, instead of pushing the ISO, try taking advantage of its image stabilization system if the situation allows, i.e., longer exposure time with low ISO.

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:54 pm
by Scott Fairbairn
I used to use a full Olympus system but dumped it all save an m1 mark2 body and the macro. It's tough to beat for macro, the built-in stacking works great and unfortunately, Sony hasn't bothered to add that option to their bodies. So I will keep it just for Macro for the time being.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:13 am
by Neilyb
Just a point to note. The 40-150 f2.8 is an awesome lens, even with the tiny TC attached. For the zoom range the 12-100 f4 is also hard to beat for a walkaround. I have not invested in the 7-14 as I do not like the idea of the bulbous front element (carrying more lenses also goes against the reasons I had for buying in to the system :) ).

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:40 am
by rene
Thanks Neil I’m not getting the 7-14 but the Panasonic 8-18 instead. It has a variable (2.8-4) aperture, is a bit smaller and takes 67mm screw in filters.
Rene

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:12 pm
by hullyjr
rene wrote:Thank for the replies. I am due to get Olympus set (12-40/4-150+1.4 converter and Panasonic 8-18)  to test. No intention to replace the Sony. I am well ware the shortcomings of the sensor
Rene
Hi Rene,

I shoot with m43 next to Canon/Nikon. There is no perfect system so I pick and choose the best for each application. The biggest issue with using multiple brands is remembering how to use them. Not just the camera menus (Olympus is plain horrible) but which way the zoom lens turns (Oly & Pannie go different ways), same with focus ring and even how the lens mounts.

You might find your m43 selection is still substantial in weight. I agree with others that the 12-100/4 is an amazing lens. I've stopped using my f/2.8 zooms as a result. I often carry 8mm/1.8 fisheye and 60mm/2.8 macro. If weight is an issue look at some of the smaller cameras (OMD EM5 III or the older GX9 - no experience with either) plus a few primes, 12mm to 75mm all of them optically excellent and reasonably fast.

Jim

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:28 am
by calvin1calvin
I use Nikons and Olympus for different things. My travel kit is usually the OM d Mark II and 12-100, 7-14 and a 14-150. I find that with the 12-100 the 14-150 does not get as much use as previously thought. I use my Nikons, d850 and d500, for bird and landscape photography. I have found that the learning curve of the Olympus menus to be a little confusing but once you get comfortable it is not too bad. I am now starting to use the Olympus system more than my Nikon system to help my back. Both systems are good as long as you recognize the strengths and weaknesses of whichever system you use. Good luck.