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Re: Re:

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:14 pm
by SantaFeJoe
neverspook wrote:So what I would like to see is how well it works for something like bears with small deep set eyes and bears on the move when eye tracking is most needed?..........

Roberta
In this link on my original post, at the bottom of the page it said bears are difficult:

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/support/tutorial/ilc/en/ilce-6400/03-1.php

Joe

Re: Re:

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:22 pm
by E.J. Peiker
SantaFeJoe wrote:
neverspook wrote:So what I would like to see is how well it works for something like bears with small deep set eyes and bears on the move when eye tracking is most needed?..........

Roberta
In this link on my original post, at the bottom of the page it said bears are difficult:

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/support/tutorial/ilc/en/ilce-6400/03-1.php

Joe
Yeah, I had a feeling that Black Bears would be more of a challenge than the other species of North American Bears.
But that link neglects one VERY important setting at least in the set-up pictures (it's in the text but most people would skip that going straight to the illustrations) - you have to select animal eye detect on the menu item that lets you distinguish between human and animal.  That article's illustrations neglects that setting altogether - it's crucial in my testing.

Re: Re:

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:09 pm
by SantaFeJoe
E.J. Peiker wrote:
SantaFeJoe wrote:
neverspook wrote:So what I would like to see is how well it works for something like bears with small deep set eyes and bears on the move when eye tracking is most needed?..........

Roberta
In this link on my original post, at the bottom of the page it said bears are difficult:

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/support/tutorial/ilc/en/ilce-6400/03-1.php

Joe
Yeah, I had a feeling that Black Bears would be more of a challenge than the other species of North American Bears.
But that link neglects one VERY important setting at least in the set-up pictures (it's in the text but most people would skip that going straight to the illustrations) - you have to select animal eye detect on the menu item that lets you distinguish between human and animal.  That article's illustrations neglects that setting altogether - it's crucial in my testing.
It’s also important to note that “tracking” and “left/right eye” cannot be used with animal eye focusing. That’s in the text, too.

Joe

Re: Re:

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:41 pm
by Mike in O
SantaFeJoe wrote:
E.J. Peiker wrote:
SantaFeJoe wrote:
neverspook wrote:So what I would like to see is how well it works for something like bears with small deep set eyes and bears on the move when eye tracking is most needed?..........

Roberta
In this link on my original post, at the bottom of the page it said bears are difficult:

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/support/tutorial/ilc/en/ilce-6400/03-1.php

Joe
Yeah, I had a feeling that Black Bears would be more of a challenge than the other species of North American Bears.
But that link neglects one VERY important setting at least in the set-up pictures (it's in the text but most people would skip that going straight to the illustrations) - you have to select animal eye detect on the menu item that lets you distinguish between human and animal.  That article's illustrations neglects that setting altogether - it's crucial in my testing.
It’s also important to note that “tracking” and “left/right eye” cannot be used with animal eye focusing. That’s in the text, too.

Joe
What is important is that it will select an eye & not the nose or ear.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:22 pm
by Scott Fairbairn
I finally updated the firmware in my A9. It took 30 minutes just to find a USB cable that would connect to the camera. I literally tried 10-20 cables before I found one that worked! I'm going to mount this cable in a frame and hang it on the wall so I can find it next time. lol
What an absolutely stupid way to do a firmware update. Sony has a long way to go in the firmware and software area, why we can't just copy the update to a card the way Nikon and Canon do it, I'll never understand. Plus, granting top-level access to my computer system for their software to run disturbs me as well. Rant over!

Re:

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:03 pm
by E.J. Peiker
Scott Fairbairn wrote: Sony has a long way to go in the firmware and software area, 
Yup, consistently my number one complaint about the Sony ecosystem.  To be fair, most camera manufacturers pretty much suck when it comes to SW and FW but Sony is among the worst if not the worst.