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by SantaFeJoe on Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:59 am
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More on the lens:

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2019/0 ... tem-needs/

Pretty much the same announcement.

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by Scott Fairbairn on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:06 am
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SantaFeJoe wrote:More on the lens:

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2019/0 ... tem-needs/

Pretty much the same announcement.

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The two most important parameters are missing, price and weight.
 

by SantaFeJoe on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:45 am
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Scott Fairbairn wrote:
The two most important parameters are missing, price and weight.
As with most new products, TBA. The body is made of magnesium and other specs are here:

https://www.dpreview.com/products/olympus/lenses/olympus_150-400_4p5_is_pro/specifications

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by E.J. Peiker on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:48 am
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The lens, mounted to a Panasonic GH-5, which can receive it natively would be THE wildlife video solution IMHO ;)
 

by Jeff Pearl on Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:09 pm
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I thought it was interesting that one of the local camera stores here is making a special effort to promote this camera by bringing in Joe Edelman and inviting people to come to their store to test the camera.
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https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/visionaries/joe_edelman
 

by DChan on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:00 pm
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Jeff Pearl wrote:I thought it was interesting that one of the local camera stores here is making a special effort to promote this camera by bringing in Joe Edelman and inviting people to come to their store to test the camera.
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https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/visionaries/joe_edelman

I believe it's one of the launch events organized by Olympus. Got an e-mail from Olympus about them myself.
 

by E.J. Peiker on Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:38 am
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Jared Polin is not everybody's cup of tea but his reviews do pretty much tell it like it is regardless of whether or not it offends the camera manufacturer. Here's his review, once you get past the bloviating, his reviews are usually right on the money and since he is a sports photographer by trade, he usually gives you a pretty good idea of how good a camera is for action. here's his review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-I4ygKnpVQ
 

by DChan on Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:13 pm
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The biggest mistake Olympus made is pricing this camera too high that people can't look pass its deficiencies.

Good to know that the C-AC has improved.

BTW, Olympus fanboys have been wondering why Olympus gets Jared review its cameras given that he's known to be "anti-m43".
 

by E.J. Peiker on Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:19 pm
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DChan wrote:The biggest mistake Olympus made is pricing this camera too high that people can't look pass its deficiencies.

Good to know that the C-AC has improved.

BTW, Olympus fanboys have been wondering why Olympus gets Jared review its cameras given that he's known to be "anti-m43".
He is anti everything or just being honest about the shortcomings of everything.  It's not specific to m43.  Watch his opinions on the Nikon Z lens offerings and you will see that :)  

Agree 150% on the pricing, I bet in 6 months it will sell for $2499
 

by Scott Fairbairn on Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:33 am
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E.J. Peiker wrote:Jared Polin is not everybody's cup of tea but his reviews do pretty much tell it like it is regardless of whether or not it offends the camera manufacturer.  Here's his review, once you get past the bloviating, his reviews are usually right on the money and since he is a sports photographer by trade, he usually gives you a pretty good idea of how good a camera is for action.  here's his review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-I4ygKnpVQ

Boy, he's going to upset a lot Olympus fans with that video. I think he's right though, most sporting events have busy backgrounds so the small sensor won't be helpful.
I've been shooting m43 for a few years and using the e-m1 mark2 since it came out. The camera system shines for a smaller kit in a small bag, which is the main selling point of the m43, which makes this new camera all the more puzzling. If compactness, lightweight and performance are the main advantages, then why make a camera that fails at all three?
Olympus has stated they will not be upgrading bodies on the usual 2-3 year cycle, instead of going for 4-5years. It makes me wonder if this is their swan song.
 

by E.J. Peiker on Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:13 am
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Another pundit that generally doesn't pull any punches:
https://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/ol ... pro-e.html
 

by calvin1calvin on Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:59 pm
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I have been using an Olympus OM-D E1 Mark II for about six months, wanted to try the smaller size of camera and lenses for travel, and like the system for my style of photography when I travel. I agree with Thom Hogan's comments about the new camera, it will not replace my Nikon d850 and d500 at this time. I will be curious to see if Olympus will utilized some of the AI technology in firmware upgrades and/or new smaller cameras in the future. I am more excited about the 150-400 lens that is due in 2020. I see some features on the new camera body I like but at this time I do not have plans to purchase. It was the same with the Nikon Z6/7.
 

by E.J. Peiker on Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:09 pm
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calvin1calvin wrote:I have been using an Olympus OM-D E1 Mark II for about six months, wanted to try the smaller size of camera and lenses for travel, and like the system for my style of photography when I travel.  I agree with Thom Hogan's comments about the new camera, it will not replace my Nikon d850 and d500 at this time.  I will be curious to see if Olympus will utilized some of the AI technology in firmware upgrades and/or new smaller cameras in the future.  I am more excited about the 150-400 lens that is due in 2020.  I see some features on the new camera body I like but at this time I do not have plans to purchase.  It was the same with the Nikon Z6/7.
I doubt that it can be adapted to older cameras as they don't have the dual CPU that the new camera has, at least according to what I have been reading.
 

by DChan on Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:00 pm
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Boy, he's going to upset a lot Olympus fans with that video.
They knew him.
I think he's right though, most sporting events have busy backgrounds so the small sensor won't be helpful.
Sporting events do not happen in a vacuum; spectators are usually expected. I've photograph sporting events before. To me, a photograph with an empty background looks weird actually. It looks quiet. It doesn't deliver the excitement that you would expect in a sporting events. Go google some sporting events photograph - football, basketball, baseball, F1 car racing, etc. - and I think you should see many if not the majority of them do not have blown out background (I bet most of them were not photographed with m43 cameras).


Here's Jared's flickr page:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaredpolin/albums


Sport photos of Sport Illustrated:

https://www.si.com/photos
 

by Scott Fairbairn on Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:35 pm
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By DChan wrote:Scott Fairbairn
Boy, he's going to upset a lot Olympus fans with that video.
They knew him.
I think he's right though, most sporting events have busy backgrounds so the small sensor won't be helpful.
Sporting events do not happen in a vacuum; spectators are usually expected. I've photograph sporting events before. To me, a photograph with an empty background looks weird actually. It looks quiet. It doesn't deliver the excitement that you would expect in a sporting events. Go google some sporting events photograph - football, basketball, baseball, F1 car racing, etc. - and I think you should see many if not the majority of them do not have blown out background (I bet most of them were not photographed with m43 cameras).


Here's Jared's flickr page:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaredpolin/albums


Sport photos of Sport Illustrated:

https://www.si.com/photos

I know they must know him otherwise they wouldn’t have given it to him to review. Unless a busy background is what you desire, in which case that’s easy enough to create on full frame, I think it’s a drawback of m43 for some types of photography. I don’t shoots sports but I would think having your subject separated from the BG would be desirable. I’ve noticed the BG issues shooting birds with m43 compared to the days I shot with a 600f4. The 600 gives better pop than m43 using the so-called equivalent 300 mm on m43. But the extra DOF is helpful in other areas of pursuit and sure is a pleasure to carry in comparison. 
 

by SantaFeJoe on Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:11 pm
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Interview with an Olympus exec:

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/925 ... hind-e-m1x

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by Neilyb on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:53 am
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SantaFeJoe wrote:Interview with an Olympus exec:

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/925 ... hind-e-m1x

Joe
Interesting. 

"[font="Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Second is photographers who are stepping up from APS-C, like Canon 7D users. Those people are buying APS-C to make use of tele lenses, to get longer focal lengths. And the system is smaller than full-frame. Those people aspire to EOS-1D X type products but they’re not affordable. And they’re big, it’s a hassle. This camera will create new demand. You can shoot at long focal lengths and still hand-hold.[/font]
[font="Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]For us, sensor size isn’t the answer"[/font]
I think Canon users aspiring to a 1Dx are doing so based on many things, including low noise and sensor size. Pretty sure they would not be looking at a smaller sensor and changing all their lenses. From what I have seen the Micro 4/3 sensor does not do so well once you reach ISO3200-6400, which is an absolute necessary ISO range for many wildlife/sports photographers? Pretty sure Canon 7D users looking to upgrade will chose a 5D4 over a new system with lower IQ that will start with $3k for the body only (talk about affordable).  
 

by Scott Fairbairn on Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:28 pm
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Neilyb wrote:
SantaFeJoe wrote:Interview with an Olympus exec:

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/925 ... hind-e-m1x

Joe
Interesting. 

"[font="Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Second is photographers who are stepping up from APS-C, like Canon 7D users. Those people are buying APS-C to make use of tele lenses, to get longer focal lengths. And the system is smaller than full-frame. Those people aspire to EOS-1D X type products but they’re not affordable. And they’re big, it’s a hassle. This camera will create new demand. You can shoot at long focal lengths and still hand-hold.[/font]
[font="Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]For us, sensor size isn’t the answer"[/font]
I think Canon users aspiring to a 1Dx are doing so based on many things, including low noise and sensor size. Pretty sure they would not be looking at a smaller sensor and changing all their lenses. From what I have seen the Micro 4/3 sensor does not do so well once you reach ISO3200-6400, which is an absolute necessary ISO range for many wildlife/sports photographers? Pretty sure Canon 7D users looking to upgrade will chose a 5D4 over a new system with lower IQ that will start with $3k for the body only (talk about affordable).  

I agree. I think Olympus is delusional with this camera release. The strength of m43 is small, lightweight and performance. This camera is neither of the first two and IMO, fails miserably in sports performance compared to FF alternatives, and that's before ISO performance is factored into things. I almost wonder if the camera was developed around the m1 Mark 2 period and then shelved, and for some reason resurrected? There's not much new in it, the hardware seems to be Mark 2 vintage.
 

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