Rowan - playing with very large apertures. Does it work?


Posted by Markus Jais on Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:51 am

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This is from the Rowan (also called mountain-ash) in my Garden.

I was playing around with the widest aperture the lens supports (that being the main reason why I bought it): 1.8. 

I wanted a really blurry background and even at 2.8, it was already a bit too distracting for my taste.
Of course, that meant that only a small part of the berries are in focus but I like it that way.

Does it work?

I am well aware that it is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that just because the lens can do 1.8, I need to shoot everything at 1.8.
We sometimes tend to "design" a shot for our equipment than the other way around.

Handheld. 1/250, f1.8, ISO 64.
Z8, 1.8/135 Plena
Some light LR work like increase in clarity and saturation, especially for red and green, but trying to not overdo it.


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by Cynthia Crawford on Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:03 am
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I like this effect very much! The background works beautifully as does the focus on the berries. And the leaves are just right as a softer element. The berries have a nice feel to them and they stand out without being overly sharpened. Colors are so pleasing!
By the way, I think a cropped version would work well too, similar to the thumbnail on the page.

(We have a rowan tree- it doesn't have so many large clusters of berries, but I love it. You've inspired me to try some similar photos ..though I have nothing that goes  to 1.8! )
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by Markus Jais on Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:19 am
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Cynthia Crawford wrote: I like this effect very much! The background works beautifully as does the focus on the berries. And the leaves are just right as a softer element. The berries have a nice feel to them and they stand out without being overly sharpened. Colors are so pleasing!
By the way, I think a cropped version would work well too, similar to the thumbnail on the page.

(We have a rowan tree- it doesn't have so many large clusters of berries, but I love it. You've inspired me to try some similar photos ..though I have nothing that goes  to 1.8! )
Thanks for the feedback. This is very helpful.
These berries are also great to attract birds to the garden.

I think with a more distant background one wouldn't need f1.8, but here it was indeed helpful. The Plena is quite heavy and it only has a magnification ration of 0.2, so often one cannot get close enough but here it worked.
Optically this lens is in a league of it's own.
 

by Cynthia Crawford on Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:35 am
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Markus Jais wrote:
Cynthia Crawford wrote: I like this effect very much! The background works beautifully as does the focus on the berries. And the leaves are just right as a softer element. The berries have a nice feel to them and they stand out without being overly sharpened. Colors are so pleasing!
By the way, I think a cropped version would work well too, similar to the thumbnail on the page.

(We have a rowan tree- it doesn't have so many large clusters of berries, but I love it. You've inspired me to try some similar photos ..though I have nothing that goes  to 1.8! )
Thanks for the feedback. This is very helpful.
These berries are also great to attract birds to the garden.

I think with a more distant background one wouldn't need f1.8, but here it was indeed helpful. The Plena is quite heavy and it only has a magnification ration of 0.2, so often one cannot get close enough but here it worked.
Optically this lens is in a league of it's own.
I'd never be able to hold such a heavy lens! Our berries are up high as well. So far, the birds have not eaten them. I think waxwings and such like those berries, but they don't hang out in our woods. I'm inclined to try with a long lens....
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by Markus Jais on Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:51 am
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Cynthia Crawford wrote:
Markus Jais wrote:
Cynthia Crawford wrote: I like this effect very much! The background works beautifully as does the focus on the berries. And the leaves are just right as a softer element. The berries have a nice feel to them and they stand out without being overly sharpened. Colors are so pleasing!
By the way, I think a cropped version would work well too, similar to the thumbnail on the page.

(We have a rowan tree- it doesn't have so many large clusters of berries, but I love it. You've inspired me to try some similar photos ..though I have nothing that goes  to 1.8! )
Thanks for the feedback. This is very helpful.
These berries are also great to attract birds to the garden.

I think with a more distant background one wouldn't need f1.8, but here it was indeed helpful. The Plena is quite heavy and it only has a magnification ration of 0.2, so often one cannot get close enough but here it worked.
Optically this lens is in a league of it's own.
I'd never be able to hold such a heavy lens! Our berries are up high as well. So far, the birds have not eaten them. I think waxwings and such like those berries, but they don't hang out in our woods. I'm inclined to try with a long lens....
Waxwings for sure like them.
Good luck, I hope you get a good shot.
 

by Axel Hildebrandt on Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:57 am
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I like the 3D effect of the shallow DOF, Markus, and I think Cindy's idea to crop it a little tighter would work, too.
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by david fletcher on Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:00 am
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Works for me also Markus.  That lens is def' on my wish list, and this is a beautiful affirmation and confirmation of its qualities.   The rendering is quite unique and beautiful, with lots of elements in the image to enjoy.

Thanks for sharing.   8)
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by John Labrenz on Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:22 pm
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Ditto Cindy's thoughts regarding b/g.
I also like the color combo and contrast here...nice.

We too have several Mountain ash in our yard. I have never seen as many berries as this year.
The trees are just overloaded with berries. It will be a cold winter I think.

In late December/early January the Cedar waxwings come in flocks and have the trees cleaned up in a day or two.
 

by Darren5907 on Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:37 pm
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The berries are well separated from the BG in terms of sharpness and also colour contrast. Agree a tighter cropping should make for a more impactful composition.

And a suggestion for your next shoot: wait for a dewy morning.;)

All the best.
 

by Tom Whelan on Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:57 pm
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The image is lovely, the berries look great and the foliage is rendered beautifully.
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by Yun Gao on Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:06 am
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Works well as is for me. Just enough focus and the background is beautiful.
 

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