The large format look...or not?


Posted by Danny Burk on Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:42 pm

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Steve Sisk's interesting comments on "the large format look" prompted some thoughts from a few of us, and I'm posting an example to illustrate what I meant. It also happens to be one of my favorite images from last month's trip to Glacier :) Doubtless many of you have recently seen it, but it nicely illustrates the point that I wanted to make.

I agree that many images have a certain "large format look" to them, and I suggested that this may be due in large part to "endless" DOF, particularly with near-far shots, as well as their 5:4 aspect ratio. I seldom shoot near-far shots, using longer lenses much of the time, which made me think that much of my work is atypical for large format. This is certainly true of this image. It's shot with a 720mm lens, an extremely long length for 4x5, although its angle of view in 35mm terms is only a little over 200mm. (It retains DOF of any 720mm lens, however...or rather, lack thereof!) While it has a foreground of sorts, it's certainly not a near-far composition. If it weren't for the 5:4 aspect ratio, I suspect that it would be difficult to determine (online, anyway) as a large format image. What do you think?

Anyway...this is Heaven's Peak in Glacier NP, photographed as alpineglow illuminated its upper reaches. That was very short-lived, lasting only about 5 minutes, and barely giving me time to frantically set up. It faded moments after I clicked the shutter.

Ebony 4x5, Nikkor 720mm, Velvia 100F
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by Dan Baumbach on Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:45 pm
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The one thing that would give this a 4x5 look is to blow it up 10 times and still have a sharp photo with lots of detail.

It doesn't look typical to me, except maybe typical Danny Burk.

Nice one.

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by Campbell on Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:45 pm
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Danny,
The color transition in here is awsome! I really like this picture.
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by Robert Ludwick on Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:56 pm
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Danny,

I agree with you about the LF look. This shot looks more like 35 because of the compression between f/g and b/g. Not the usual 75-210mm most LF shooters use. Nice shot.

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by Rich S on Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:59 am
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I answered this "not" before looking at your equipment. In retrospect, Dan's comment is right on the money. What does it look like at 20x30 would be a better question - and I'm guessing here that there's a bit of an issue with compression here since the top of the deep blue on my monitor appears to have some issue. (Get's me wondering how Guy got his most recent post down to web size! :shock: )

Love the colors and the diagonal of the pines contrasting with the diagonal of the mountain.

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by robert hasty on Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:25 am
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Format Shmormat :D Danny, this is awesome no matter what its from. Very nice image that has to look excellent printed very big!!

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by Kerry on Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:49 pm
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As you know from the earlier "screening," I think this shot is phenomenal...and given that it IS a 4x5 transparency, I urge you to print it at poster size...I'd love to see a large print of this one.

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by E.J. Peiker on Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:46 pm
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I love the pink to blue transition in this shot. Very well done!
 

by Eric Fredine on Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:50 pm
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Danny - The pink to blue transition is wonderful. I also like the strong graphic design of the composition and the relative flatness of the compressed perspective.

My thoughts on the LF look - I think it has a lot to do with the subject matter and how it is composed. I think people using LF are drawn to subjects with lots of detail and a certain level of controlled complexity. That being said, I also think there is a distinct clarity (sharpness, smooth tones, etc.) to LF shots that tends to come through even on web presentations.

I would agree that this doesn't necessarily look like an LF shot: the compressed view (as you noted) but also the relative simplicity of the composition and the softness lent to the image by the morning fog.

Just my thoughts ('cause I do ponder these types of things).

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by Heather Forcier on Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:09 am
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Glad you were able to capture the moment, what a spendid scene!
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by RichardMittleman/Gon2Foto on Sun Aug 31, 2003 5:58 pm
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Still looks great seeing it again which says lots about an image.
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