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Recently Chas and Artie posted or published shots from Bosque where they caught a silhouette of a crane or snowgoose passing the rising or setting sun. This is a sunrise shot. I was inspired by their talent and when I saw the cranes walking through the reflection of the rising sun, I focused on the reflection as best as I could, set the aperture as small as possible, compensated down as much as possible, tried to anticipate the birds position in the reflection and prayed. Though this is not very easy, itis generations easier than trying to catch the birds flying though the sun. This is what I got, I had to burn and dodge to lighten the top of the reflection and darken the head on the left crane, then ran the saturation to about 75 to really bring out the silhouettes. I like it and hope you do also. comments welcome. I could have changed the ISO for this shot, but it slipped my mind.
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by TSparger on Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:24 am
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It's a beautiful shot. The horizon does seem to tilt to the left a little though.
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by Alan Murphy on Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:42 am
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Very nice Steve. I like it.
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by Bill Whala on Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:52 am
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I like that you got two SHCs in the shot. Very nice!!
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by Scott A. Flaherty on Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:53 am
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I would be tempted to crop off the top third or half of this shot. All that darkness keeps me from exploring a substantial portion of this photo. That being said, I still like the lower half.
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by BrianS on Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:40 am
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Nice post and good explanation.
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by stevebein on Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:44 am
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Scott, Here is your suggestion. what do you think about the crop. I lposted the shot full frame originally.
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by Scott A. Flaherty on Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:52 pm
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Steve,

You took my crop suggestion to the extreme :wink:. I was thinking something like this...
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...obviously you would have it sized better. I was working with the small file you posted. I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty to edit it in order to help visualize what I was thinking.

I'm pretty new to photography so I could way off base with this crop suggestion. I just thought I'd throw my opinion out there in the small chance that it might be helpfull. Have a great day! :D
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by stevebein on Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:22 pm
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Scott,
IT looks fine to me. I often post full frame, reserving cropping for printing. To me, the education is in doing what I can do with the fullframe, then later changing if I will be printing, but Ihave been doing more crops when posting. If there had been water instead of bush and dirt above, then the sun reflection would have reached higher. There is a hint of some sun in the full frame.
For these shots, i should use a 10D instead of the 1Ds, but I only took one film and one digital camera. One day, I left both batteries charging in the rush to get to the car. Life moves on. Now to see the trannies sometime later today, expecially the 6x17 panoramics..
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by Greg Downing on Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:40 pm
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Very cool shot! I like the crop but not the extreme one (it's way too bright). I like the dark areas.
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by Cliff Beittel on Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:38 pm
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Steve,

A good image, but to my mind, there's not enough separation of the birds from the background. Ironically, I think this is a case where higher angle (as on top of an RV) would have made a better picture, putting the silhouetted birds in front of orange water.
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by stevebein on Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:55 pm
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Cliff,
I thought about that, but they would not allow me to drive the Jeep onto the flight deck at Bosque. Maybe next time.
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by Lillian Roberts on Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:54 pm
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Hey, Steve... in contrast (so to speak) with other suggestions, what do you think about croping the bottom 25% or so, at the "waist" of the "hourglass" reflection? To my eye, the dark negative space works but the large amount of bright light distracts. Such a crop also places the birds 1/3 from the bottom of the image field. Just a thought, I like this a little better than my own favorite shot from that morning. :)
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by Anthony Medici on Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:12 pm
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This is certainly one way to blind yourself. However, if you are careful, you do get quite a nice image and you get to keep you eye sight. Please always be careful if you are going to do this. :)
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by Cliff Beittel on Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:29 pm
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Steve,

You didn't mention the flight deck initially. Anyway, with the kind of 4WD vehicles you pilot, who needs a flight deck? :wink: I like Lillian's suggested crop.
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