Scaups in Toronto, Pano


Posted by fredcor on Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:14 am

All times are UTC-05:00

Reply to topic  
 First unread post  | 5 posts | 
Image
Took these Scaups on the Toronto lakefront in late March, I really liked the effect of the water at the time. Are these Lesser or Greater Scaups?
As usual comments invited and thank you for looking.

Latafat

Coolpix 5700
1/500 at f6.6, ISO 100

Posted by:
fredcor
Lifetime Member
Location: Mississauga, ON. Canada
Member #:00186
Posts: 5419
Joined: 14 Oct 2003

   

by E.J. Peiker on Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:19 am
User avatar
E.J. Peiker
Senior Technical Editor
Posts: 86776
Joined: 16 Aug 2003
Location: Arizona
Member #:00002
Very difficult to tell if they are Lesser or Greater Scaups from this angle but if I had to bet, I would bet on Greater. The most definitive way to tell them apart is by the nail on the bill which is not visible in this photo. The Lesser Scaup's black nail is cylindrical in shape while Greater Scaup's Nail is flared like a bell:
Image
A second way to tell but a less reliable method is by looking for the crown on the male which is typically higher up on the Lesser Scaup than it is on the Greater but there is some overlap. Since I see no crown at all on the adult male, I am guessing Greater Scaup. As for the photo, I would prefer a lower shooting angle and some detail in the white side of the adult male.
 

by Ron Ridout on Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:17 am
User avatar
Ron Ridout
Forum Contributor
Posts: 140
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Location: St Williams, ON Canada
Lat

These are Greater Scaup. The rounded head in combination with the large bill is the best indicator in your shot. Male Greaters also exhibit cleaner white sides on average than male Lessers. On the distribution side, Greater is the commoner scaup on Lake Ontario in winter but that's not to say there aren't some Lessers about.

It takes a bit of practice with scaup, particularly when both aren't present for comparison but it becomes easier over time.

I love E.J.'s head shots. They show the nail on the bill beautifully.

Ron
Ron Ridout
Bird Studies Canada
Author - [i]A Birding Guide to the Long Point Area[/i]
http://www.bsc-eoc.org
 

by Bill Whala on Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:36 pm
User avatar
Bill Whala
Forum Contributor
Posts: 5979
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Very nice shot, Lat. The pano crop works very well with this composition.
Bill Whala

"Aves of similar plumage tend to converge with one another"
 

by Alan Murphy on Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:39 pm
User avatar
Alan Murphy
Lifetime Member
Posts: 27330
Joined: 20 Aug 2003
Location: Houston, Texas
Member #:00014
I like the placement of the birds within the frame.
Alan Murphy
NSN 0014
www.alanmurphyphotography.com
 

Display posts from previous:  Sort by:  
5 posts | 

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group