In the Wars

Posted by david fletcher on Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am

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Processed another image from the past and thought to share. Cropped to vertical.

This Stag had been in the wars and was showing some damage around his eye.

Thanks for looking.

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by Kim on Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:37 pm

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Might be in the wars but he still looks impressive. Have you thought of removing those two bits of grass straw from his shoulder, they compete with his tines for me. All in all a great shot of him though.

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by Axel Hildebrandt on Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:12 am

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Great portrait and details, Dave.

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by Cynthia Crawford on Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:44 pm

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A handsome fellow, even with that injury. Nice light and a lovely background. I like how his tines shine!

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by david fletcher on Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:59 pm

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Kim wrote: Might be in the wars but he still looks impressive. Have you thought of removing those two bits of grass straw from his shoulder, they compete with his tines for me.

Thanks for the feedback Kim. Take this with a pinch of salt as I pondered quite a while as to how best to reply.

Firstly, it's just a re-processed image taken a while back and I'm not overly worried about the two bits of grass. You could say, "in my mind, the image isn't worth the attention". Partly so.

I think the main thought process I have on this relates to what I feel about forum images in regard to my own pleasure from photography.

So here goes.

Photographers have different preferences/ expectations than the general public. A lot of my more successful images wouldn't get two comments in a photography forum. Generally, the general public are more tolerant and look for story telling rather than technical perfection.

If you shoot for the customer, or the "forum", you are allowing them to dictate to you what you think is good. It can be helpful, and is not the same as shooting for an editor who has a specific need; nor for those togs' that stick to their own vision/niche and allow the public to decide if they like their work. (usual fringe benefit to that is a niche style that can be longer lasting).

Where I probably sit, is that I have some efforts that have the "forum" stamp, but the images I get more satisfaction from are those that lean towards story telling rather than removing technical flaws. I used to get tetchy about some other "sites" that seemed hell bent on sterilising every image. Doesn't bother me now, as I don't like that style so left them where they are happy.

As for the story telling. Hard nut to crack!

All that from Two blades of grass... LOL. Appreciate your thoughts and can only add the reply is more for all that read and view as there are probably a shed load of differing views on the subject.

Hope that makes sense.

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by Kim on Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:34 pm

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david fletcher wrote:
Kim wrote: Might be in the wars but he still looks impressive. Have you thought of removing those two bits of grass straw from his shoulder, they compete with his tines for me.
Thanks for the feedback Kim. Take this with a pinch of salt as I pondered quite a while as to how best to reply.

Firstly, it's just a re-processed image taken a while back and I'm not overly worried about the two bits of grass. You could say, "in my mind, the image isn't worth the attention". Partly so.

I think the main thought process I have on this relates to what I feel about forum images in regard to my own pleasure from photography.

So here goes.

Photographers have different preferences/ expectations than the general public. A lot of my more successful images wouldn't get two comments in a photography forum. Generally, the general public are more tolerant and look for story telling rather than technical perfection.

If you shoot for the customer, or the "forum", you are allowing them to dictate to you what you think is good. It can be helpful, and is not the same as shooting for an editor who has a specific need; nor for those togs' that stick to their own vision/niche and allow the public to decide if they like their work. (usual fringe benefit to that is a niche style that can be longer lasting).

Where I probably sit, is that I have some efforts that have the "forum" stamp, but the images I get more satisfaction from are those that lean towards story telling rather than removing technical flaws. I used to get tetchy about some other "sites" that seemed hell bent on sterilising every image. Doesn't bother me now, as I don't like that style so left them where they are happy.

As for the story telling. Hard nut to crack!

All that from Two blades of grass... LOL. Appreciate your thoughts and can only add the reply is more for all that read and view as there are probably a shed load of differing views on the subject.

Hope that makes sense.

Well, that is the best reply to a comment I have had in years. Thank you, David.

Here are my musings on the topic.

First let me say if you met me in real life, you would say I am very direct, so I guess my comments are often very direct too.
Let me give some more information on why I made the comment then lets see how well it melds with your reply.
On our farm we have well over 140 deer, I see them every day both reds and fellow deer. So yes I probably see them differently to the general public, photographers or not.

I was attracted to your thumbnail of the deer so opened it immediately. I was looking at the head, eyes and the tines but my eye kept getting pulled down to the two parallel grass storks then up and out the top right. I found that annoying and distracting. It was a natural visceral reaction not something I was looking for. It had very little to do with photography or why we post images but rather an annoying fly one constantly brushes away as a reflex action, at least we do here in Australia. I just looked down to see what was annoying me, as simple as that.

I then read your description of the image and had thought you had already processed it and was not to concerned for the image, thus I asked if you had considered removing the grass storks. Guess I just wanted to enjoy the story more.

The bottom line is it is your image to present as you see fit and I have no trouble respecting that.

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by david fletcher on Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:39 am

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Thanks for getting back Kim. Good to share your thoughts too. (and am somewhat relieved too. I'm not a fan of the sterilisation camp and glad it's feedback on your thoughts).. That'll do nicely for me and will always be welcome.

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by John Labrenz on Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:54 pm