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Posted by Cindy Marple on Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:56 pm

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On the last day of our tour we finally came across Howler Monkeys in a spot we could photograph them.  A male, presumably papa, was in a nearby tree.  It was nice that these 2 sat in a reasonably open spot for quite a while.  Rainforest lighting is not the easiest to deal with...

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by Steve Kaluski on Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:22 am
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I like the pose/framing Cindy and the shooting angle isn't too steep, but I can't help feel the camera's metering has been fooled by the BKG and so the subjects are thrown more into shadow, concealing a lot of very nice detail and clarity.

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by david fletcher on Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:36 pm
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Looks like you've been having a good trip Cindy. Lots of detail showing when viewed large. Tricky lighting as you mentioned. Me, I'm not a fan of opening up shadow detail too much as a) it looks false, and b) light and shade make an image and define shape.. like as presented
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by Cindy Marple on Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:26 pm
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Steve Kaluski wrote:
I like the pose/framing Cindy and the shooting angle isn't too steep, but I can't help feel the camera's metering has been fooled by the BKG and so the subjects are thrown more into shadow, concealing a lot of very nice detail and clarity.

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Thanks for the inputs.  This was shot in manual exposure mode and we had enough time with them that I was able to check histograms and make sure I was getting all the data.  Actually as shot the monkeys are a bit over-exposed (expose-to-the-right) and was brought down, along with highlights, in post.  I may have gone a bit too far, although they are very dark monkeys, and they were in deep shade so there is some loss of detail.  Dark fur or feathers in low light is a really tough combination for getting crisp detail. 
 

by Ron Day on Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:02 pm
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Cindy, agree with your decision to shoot in manual mode and to expose to the right within the histogram. Under these challenging rainforest conditions, I feel you did very well. I love the poses and details. And large view is a treat.
 

by Steve Kaluski on Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:16 am
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'I may have gone a bit too far, although they are very dark monkeys, and they were in deep shade so there is some loss of detail.  Dark fur or feathers in low light is a really tough combination for getting crisp detail.'

Hi Cindy, I might suggest if you have the time, that you 'double process' the image in this case and so you get the best of both worlds in terms of Subject & Environment. In addition, just be mindful that if you have processed the raw via LR it does, behind the scenes, add additional Contrast which is not ideal where subjects are as dark as they are with fine detail. 

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by Carol Clarke on Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:58 am
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I agree it would be nice to have a wee bit more detail in the dark fur, but when you click on the image for the uncompressed view I think you did very well in these conditions under the tree canopy, and came up with a lovely image of these two characters, Cindy! It works well for me.

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by Cynthia Crawford on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:42 am
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Aside from all the comments on exposure, I do love their expressions and "attitudes". They look much better uncompressed.
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by Robert Sabin on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:55 am
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david fletcher wrote:
Looks like you've been having a good trip Cindy.  Lots of detail showing when viewed large.  Tricky lighting as you mentioned.  Me, I'm not a fan of opening up shadow detail too much as a) it looks false, and b) light and shade make an image and define shape..  like as presented


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by Paul Rossi on Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:46 pm
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david fletcher wrote:
Looks like you've been having a good trip Cindy.  Lots of detail showing when viewed large.  Tricky lighting as you mentioned.  Me, I'm not a fan of opening up shadow detail too much as a) it looks false, and b) light and shade make an image and define shape..  like as presented


I agree.  Nice balanced background.
 

by clement on Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:17 am
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How cute they both are.. Superb one Cindy
 

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