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Having difficulty saving to TIF.(Have an answer)

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:03 pm
by Bill Chambers
For some reason, my ability to save images properly as Tif files in CS6 has been compromised.  I can save them as Tifs and I can see them in Bridge and open them from Bridge just fine, but when I try to pull them up from another program (Topaz Sharpen AI or Topaz Gigapixel AI) the file appears washed out in the index and the program will not open them at all.  Please see images below.


I have circled the "washed out" files.  As you can see, older files saved in TIF are fine.
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Error message I receive when I try to open washed out files in Topaz Sharpen AI.
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:43 pm
by E.J. Peiker
Topaz can't ZIP compressed TIFs it will give you that error. If you ahve saved the files as zip compressed tif, re-neter Photoshop, save them as uncompressed and then Topaz can open them.

Also if the file is over 2GB in CS6, it has to be saved as a PSD.

I don't know what's going on with the washed out thumbnails.

I would go ahead and save your current workspace and then clear the Photoshop preferences file. Then relaunch Photoshop and reload your saved workspace. That often clears up all sorts of weird PS behavior.

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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:38 pm
by Bill Chambers
E.J. Peiker wrote:Topaz can't ZIP compressed TIFs it will give you that error.  If you ahve saved the files as zip compressed tif, re-neter Photoshop, save them as uncompressed and then Topaz can open them.

Also if the file is over 2GB in CS6, it has to be saved as a PSD.

I don't know what's going on with the washed out thumbnails.

I would go ahead and save your current workspace and then clear the Photoshop preferences file.  Then relaunch Photoshop and reload your saved workspace.  That often clears up all sorts of weird PS behavior.
Thanks E.J.  I may have been misleading.  The Tif file washes out even if I don't use Topaz.  I save the Tif as uncompressed.  I will do as you suggest re: saving workspace and clearing my preferences.  Hopefully, that will work.

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:16 pm
by Bill Chambers
I did reset the PS Preferences but unfortunately, that did not fix the issue.

I do have an answer to this issue, however. I ran a series of images thru ACR and Capture One 12 Pro and then saved them (with no additional processing) as a tif = no problems. Ran the images thru Topaz DeNoise and saved them as tif = no problems. Then processed them with basic processing using curves and saved as tif = no problems. Then processed using Tony Kuyper's Luminosity Masks and saved as tif = PROBLEM. I did this a couple of times and each time the same problem exists. I contacted Tony Kuyper via email and he supplied me with an answer and the fix. His reply - "I think what's causing your problem might be the "Lum Lock" and "Rapid Mask" channels that the Basic V6 panel puts on the Channels panel. These are part of the process for making the different luminosity masks so quickly. If you save your image with those alpha channels still present, you get the tif preview as viewed through the mask. Not sure why that happens, but it does."

"You need to clean these alpha channels off the Channels panel before saving as a tif. To do that, click the "X" button in the upper right corner of the Basic V6 panel."

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:08 am
by E.J. Peiker
Wow, glad you figured that out - that is very bizarre.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:31 pm
by Royce Howland
Many applications can't properly display TIFF files that contain alpha channels. The solution is as Tony recommended -- save a version of the file with all alpha channels removed from the Channels panel.