will HDMI work for Dual DVI?

I see some computer components removing dual DVI which is what I was using for my NEC 30" spectraview.  They seem to be going HDMI.  Can I use that instead?  Doesn't seem like it.  Google did not turn up any answers.

The maximum supported resolution for HDMI currently is 4K so it will work but I would want to use Display Port, not HDMI due to the higher bit depth capability and at 4K, HDMI only supports 24 Hz refresh according to the spec sheet for it which could show too much flicker for still images.  Display Port is the way to go for still images.

I was looking for a Display Port card recently and there aren't a lot in the reasonable price range for 3 - 4 MB of memory. Use Lightroom / Photoshop no video or gaming for around $150-$175.

There should be a few around for instance:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 814125486R

or:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125510

I can't see any reason why you would need more than 2GB on a video card for PS. 

Now I see why you guys build your own computers.  It is fascinating and I am afraid I am getting hooked.  I went to a nearby Fry's Electronics and saw all the components, took a ton of notes, and am continuing my education.  I hope to graduate from Computer Building 101 soon.  You guys are fantastic teachers!  Google has been great too. 

I looked at one of the custom build sites. The choices are so many and labeled in what to the uninitiated is very cryptic language. I'd need a lot of help to figure it out.

I mis-identified a Display Port input on my NEC 30" as an HDMI port as I did not have my glasses on and I did not have a flashlight.  The ports look sort of similar. 

Thanks for the ID, EJ.

After reading about the many problems often encountered on a home built computer by a rookie (me), I have decided to eventually go with perhaps a company built Lenovo i7 Quad, 16 ram, 250 ssd, two 2 TB hard drives, Win 7 Pro.  $1132 US.  It is in a conservative traditional case with no flashing lights, something I want.

I have a bunch of stuff to sell first to generate the funds.  I have had absolutely zero response from the classifieds here, despite what I think are low prices.  I am going to try selling on Miranda or Amazon used.



 

Company built computers are a bit hit and miss on component quality, I would recommend getting one built if you can, at the very least you avoid adware and bloatware:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886278/ ... o-pcs.html

This one has been exposed, but why give your money to a firm that does stuff like that.

Use of a display port is probably better than DVI, I just ordered a 30" NEC and talked to the seller who is pretty good to deal with and he told me DVI cables give a lot of problems while a good display port is a lot less troublesome, he sells quite a few big NECs and says he has seen many problems with DVI cables causing all sorts of weird problems with PCs.

Here's the component list I put up on your other post:

Gigabyte H97-D3H motherboard
Gigabyte R726XOC-2GD 2 graphics card or
Gigabyte GV-N960IXOC-2GD all have display port connections
Intel i7-47740K or i7-4790 CPU:
Kingston value RAM 8GB 1600 MHz x 4 for 32GB or x2 for 16 GB
Samsung 850 EVO 256 GB SSD:
DVD drive, whatever they have
Win7 x64 pro OEM:
3TB HDD WD red or what ever size combo you want.
this is a good solid plain case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811129024

just take the list to couple of stores and see what will charge you. If they want to substitute other components ask them why and post here if you have any questions about alternate configurations. It's really not rocket science and a little bit of care will have you a real nice PC that will last quite a while. I put it all in a newegg shopping cart and total was $1251.

Wow, Chris, thanks for the warning on Lenovo on the pre-installed adware virus. I just went through an adware virus removal on a Dell I had parked with so many issues I gave up on it for a time. I had to use Malwarebytes, as windows security essentials missed the problem.

Now that I have looked at the Gigabyte components at Fry's I see they look superior to many other haphazard looking components.

I really like the case you sent me to. It doesn't have USB open connections on top which are going to clog with dust. Most importantly it looks conservative. The gamer grandkids like all the flashing lights wild looking cases but at 64 I am too old for that stuff. It bugs me.

I am going to print out your list and see if I can get a local shop to do the assembly.

Thanks for all the input.

Steve,

I can second Chris' choice of cases. I have built several computers for myself and others using the Sonata series cases from Antec and they are excellent. They even come with a decent 500 watt power supply and the price at $85 can't be beat.

Steve Cirone wrote:Now I see why you guys build your own computers.  It is fascinating and I am afraid I am getting hooked.  I went to a nearby Fry's Electronics and saw all the components, took a ton of notes, and am continuing my education.  I hope to graduate from Computer Building 101 soon.  You guys are fantastic teachers!  Google has been great too. 

I used to build my own computers for a long time, from the mid 90's to around 2006. Then I switched to the Mac and have not looked back. I still tinker around with external components, HD enclosures and so on, but for my desktop nothing more than adding an SSD or extra memory or video card (most of which is impossible with the Mac Pro 2013).

I realized that the Windows platform is simply too cumbersome, prone to malfunction, viruses, memory leaks and what not. Almost always, in about 2-3 yrs I would end up replacing major components or simply building a new one. There is also this lust for the fastest and biggest that is an inevitable consequence of being able to replace most parts yourself. 

My son, who programs for a living talked me into the Mac world and it has been a revelation. Yes, it may cost more in some ways, but in the end, for the work we do as photographers, it is a simple yet elegant solution.

The only piece of software I miss on the Mac is QImage which Inow run through VMware Fusion. It is so good that it is absolutely worth doing so.

Pradeep

Primus wrote: I used to build my own computers for a long time, from the mid 90's to around 2006.

I realized that the Windows platform is simply too cumbersome, prone to malfunction, viruses, memory leaks and what not. Almost always, in about 2-3 yrs I would end up replacing major components or simply building a new one. There is also this lust for the fastest and biggest that is an inevitable consequence of being able to replace most parts yourself.

Yes, I agree that upgrades every few years was the norm, but even for macs, as computers were advancing in capability a lot.  Now that we have 4th generation I7 cpus with multiple cores, there is less need to upgrade very often if one starts with a quality system.

The "computers are fast enough" for most users is another reason why PC sales have dropped.  Many may want to upgrade because windows slows with time and bloatware.

Note the next thing to watch for in building/buying a new system is having USB 3.1 which about doubles the speed of USB3.  Also make sure disk interfaces are SATA 6 Gbit/sec.  Note there is also a SATA 16 Gbit/s though I have not seen any drives for that speed.  Has anyone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

Roger

Bloatware, adware, and crapware seem pretty easy to strip out of a prefab, but it still galls me it is there at all. I have an old i7 27" iMac, a 2 TB rig. I do my initial photo editing there as it is fairly fast. I then replicate the so called "good photos" over to one of my windows 7 rigs, mainly a 2009 relic that is super slow.

I also have a Win 7 27" Dell all in one i5 but it has caused me so much grief I think I will donate it to one of the grandkids. Yet I just got it debugged, so time will tell.

I like to build stuff, so this looks like a fun project and I just sold one of my Mark IV bods, and a Nikon D 800, so I have some change to fool with. Plus I am hooked on this fat 30" NEC monitor. It deserves better than the moldy oldie Win 7 rig it is hooked to.