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by SantaFeJoe on Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:36 pm
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This doesn’t sound good, to say the least:

https://petapixel.com/2019/02/23/kodaks-kodakit-asks-photographers-to-sign-over-the-entire-copyright/

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by Brian Stirling on Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:18 pm
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Doesn't sound like Kodak has a clue and thinks they can convince photogs to sign away all rights to there work. Kodak is trying hard to lose the respect of the photography world. Sad...


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by Paul Fusco on Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:12 pm
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Sounds like they are trying to create a "Getty" style image source data bank, but one that goes even farther beyond the current practices in the stock world.
This from a company that most would think would do all they can to respect photographers and the medium.
Talk about a bad business model.

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by E.J. Peiker on Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:16 pm
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I can't find anything on Kodakit on the Kodak website. Given that they have sold off many parts of their business including some things that are allowed to retain the Kodak name to other companies, are we sure that this is even Kodak or some other company, most likely based in a company where copyrights are meaningless?
 

by SantaFeJoe on Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:49 pm
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E.J. Peiker wrote:I can't find anything on Kodakit on the Kodak website.  Given that they have sold off many parts of their business including some things that are allowed to retain the Kodak name to other companies, are we sure that this is even Kodak or some other company, most likely based in a company where copyrights are meaningless?
Here's more info:

https://www2.kodakit.com/about

https://m.facebook.com/kodakit.official/

https://venturebeat.com/2017/01/05/kodak-kodakit-photography/

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by E.J. Peiker on Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:19 am
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That all points to it being a separate company from Kodak although it could be under the Eastman Kodak umbrella, there doesn't appear to be a lot of transparency here...
 

by SantaFeJoe on Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:01 am
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Really, after reading more, I think it is simply a way that business has been done for a long time. I was hired in the late ‘90s to photograph elk and other animals on a reclaimed area. I was paid a set daily fee plus expenses. All images(trasparencies) were turned over to the company that hired me with no holdbacks or personal use of the images. It’s very different from stock photography or selling images taken on one’s own time. It truly is “work for hire”.
If you read from the company info in the links above, this company is pairing up photographers with companies that need a service. It is not stock photography at all. Simply put, it’s contracted work. Here’s another article.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/1917118325/kodak-s-on-demand-image-service-kodakit-criticized-for-stripping-photographers-of-their-copyrights

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by Jeff Colburn on Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:12 pm
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Hi,

I wish I could say this is not common, but more and more contests, stock sites and others try to get you to sign away your copyright. This lets them maximize profits, while not dealing with the hassles of calculating and paying commissions.

I heard a photographer say that if he wanted to start a stock photo agency, he would just hold a contest that gave him all rights. In a few weeks he would have thousands of photos that he could sell any way he wanted.

People, carefully read contracts to any contest or business where you submit your photos. One sentence in a 20-page contract can mean the difference between you keeping control of your photographs and you giving away all rights.

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by Brian Stirling on Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:54 am
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This has been a growing trend where we as photographers are nothing more than what 'labor' is to the large investor class -- an asset to be strip-mined and compensated as little as possible. How many media companies have actual paid photogs on staff and how many just open a website where anyone can submit photos, photos that become the property of the media company to do and sell as they please. It is, sadly, just another day in an economic system that's been pushing towards this for more than 40 years and neither political party has our backs anymore.


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