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by Blck-shouldered Kite on Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:39 pm

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Am wondering what other's thoughts are regarding Nikon's decision to exclude the built-in flash from the D500. I do not like it.

Does Nikon say it was done to help weatherize the body ?

Do you suspect it was done to force you into that new flash they have ?

Down the road, do you think, Nikon will come out with a similar DX body that has a built in flash; i.e. same new AF system, deep buffer and same sensor but maybe slightly cheaper build ?

Here are some thoughts from Mr. Hogan:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/the ... n-the.html

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by E.J. Peiker on Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:38 pm

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I like having a pop up flash available. There are a few times where it saved my butt. The reason they did it was for a larger viewfinder image and better weather sealing and maybe to sell some more flashes. Do note there are a number of small flashes out there that don't take up al of the room of the big flashes that you can attach for when you need one.

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by Dave Courtenay on Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:56 pm

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I only use the built in flash as a commander and as i have a SU800 thats rare, I have no problem in the lack of pop up flash

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by Tim Zurowski on Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:58 pm

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I use the pop up flash for lots of things; with just one of them being used in "commander" mode. The D500 not having one is a huge factor for me and one that I am really disappointed about. I know this is not meant to be another D500 thread, but there really is only one aspect of the D500 that might entice me to look at it; and that is if the higher ISO performance is significantly better than the D7200.

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by bender16v on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:25 pm

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Not having it makes the D500 more attractive to me. Any time that I have tried to use it in the past (when I forgot my flash or was too lazy to get it out) I have been disappointed with the results. I have an SU800 and a Yongnuo wireless transmitter to fire external flashes if needed but I do understand that using as a commander could be handy. For me the pop up flash just gets in the way when I bump the release button by mistake.

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by E.J. Peiker on Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:06 am

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Check out the Nissin i40 or i60 for a small compact but much more powerful flash than any built in flash

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by Blck-shouldered Kite on Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:41 am

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E.J. Peiker wrote:Check out the Nissin i40 or i60 for a small compact but much more powerful flash than any built in flash

That might be a convenient solution. Get in the habit of keeping it in a pocket when shooting the D500 and just pop it on when needed.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sit ... gM#imgrc=_

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by Blck-shouldered Kite on Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:55 am

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Thank you so much for your responses

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by david fletcher on Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:08 pm

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another, not affected by the lack of a pop up flash.... to me, it's more appealing without.. If I need some remote flash work: (I only consider pop up flashes as useful commanders...), I'll use my pocket wizards...

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by Blck-shouldered Kite on Sun May 01, 2016 12:08 pm

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E.J. ......... do you think that this Nissan i40 might synch at any shutter speed I choose on the D500 (I hope) ?

In other words, with this i40 can I use the Auto FP high-speed sync mode that is on many Nikon DSLR cameras? I am assuming the D500 has this.

Probably not huh?

Thank you ahead

Sorry, there was a lot of needless junk included in the first post; I just edited it to make it clearer/simpler.

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by flip2350 on Sun May 01, 2016 12:39 pm

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E.J. Peiker wrote:Check out the Nissin i40 or i60 for a small compact but much more powerful flash than any built in flash

EJ,

Do the old flashes still work. The 900, 700 etc?

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by E.J. Peiker on Mon May 02, 2016 4:16 am

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flip2350 wrote:
E.J. Peiker wrote:Check out the Nissin i40 or i60 for a small compact but much more powerful flash than any built in flash

EJ,

Do the old flashes still work. The 900, 700 etc?

Yes, no issue with them.

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by Blck-shouldered Kite on Mon May 02, 2016 8:44 pm

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Just was anxious if this Nissin i40 would work in Nikon's FP high speed synch mode. I guess according to this article it can, right up to 1/8000. The writer does reveal that the i40 does not have illuminated controls.

http://www.davidpartington.com/m43/2014 ... sh-review/

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by E.J. Peiker on Tue May 03, 2016 5:49 am

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Yes it works exactly the same way as a Nikon flash ISO that regard.
I wrote a review of that flash for Nikon 2 years ago and the Sony version about a year and a half ago.
Note there is now an i60.

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by Blck-shouldered Kite on Tue May 03, 2016 7:33 am

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E.J.

I found and read this link.

Your review is clear, brief but thorough. It answered the questions I had about this i40, including your rationale for justifying the simple, non-LCD controls and that it synchs at high speed. This thing sounds like an exciting....maybe even vital piece for popping some light into a tight situation.

Thank you.

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