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by KK Hui on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:35 am
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The new Nikon D7200 ! :)
  • 24.2MP CMOS sensor with no optical low-pass filter
  • Multi-CAM 3500DX II 51-point AF system, all sensitive to -3EV
  • 2,016-pixel RGB metering sensor, used for 3D subject tracking in AF-C
  • ISO 100-25,600, with ISO 51,200 and 102,400 black and white modes
  • 6 fps continuous shooting (7 fps in 1.3x crop mode) with increased buffer depth (eighteen (18) 14-bit lossless compressed NEF image files or twenty-seven (27) 12-bit lossy compressed files. For JPEG, it is 100 frames)
  • 1/8000 sec maximum shutter speed
  • 3.2", 1.2M dot RGBW LCD display
  • 1080/60p video (1.3x crop only) with clean output over HDMI and Flat Picture Control
  • Dual SD card slots
  • Wi-Fi with NFC
  • Magnesium alloy weather-sealed body
re: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d7200
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by absu on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:00 am
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Nikon is making money by correcting the flaws of earlier one with new camera. Though all upgrades are welcome but lack marginal upgrades. Same is happened to D810 compared to D800E.
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by DChan on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:02 am
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Buffer size of the ancient D300 is 30 lawless 14-bit raw files and it's 18 for the D7200. Are they actually of similar buffer size given that the D7200 has twice the resolution?
 

by Neilyb on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:38 am
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This is basically the camera the D7100 should have been, possibly puts a D400 out of the picture now.
 

by E.J. Peiker on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:39 am
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All 51 AF points see down to -3 Ev!!!

Here is a more complete D7100 vs D7200 comparison:
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/03/02/nikon ... more-89146

And here's a bunch of propaganda videos on the 7200:
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/03/02/nikon ... more-89130
 

by KK Hui on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:49 am
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D7200 sees an upgrade on processor (Expeed 4), larger buffer depth (18 RAW, 100 jpeg), higher AF sensitivity to -3EV, AF system enhancement with Multi-CAM 3500DX II, WiFi w/ NFC and longer battery life etc. All these are quite significant to me!!!
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by absu on Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:21 am
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Neilyb wrote:This is basically the camera the D7100 should have been, possibly puts a D400 out of the picture now.
+1 as earlier commented. The Nikon's propaganda on Autofocus system at per with D750 seriously contradicts the lack of Group area AF.
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by bender16v on Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:06 am
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I currently use a D7100 for DX and D600 for FX and am ready to make an upgrade. I've been torn between waiting for the unicorn D400 and upgrading my FX body. I suppose this makes the decision more simple since there apparently will not be a D400 anytime soon so I will go with a D810 and possibly a D7200. I still wish there was 1-2 more fps from the D7200 but the increased buffer will be very welcome.
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by E.J. Peiker on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:00 am
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Neilyb wrote:This is basically the camera the D7100 should have been
This seems to be what everyone says about every new DSLR that comes out now.  DSLR's are nearing the end of the road.  Upgrades will be incremental.  Revolutionary advances are much more likely in less mature product lines like mirrorless.

That said there are a number of new things including built in WiFi, user defined picture controls that can be uploaded to the camera, a better sensor (Sony vs. Toshiba in the D7100), 1080P at 60FPS, 3 x the buffer, flat profile like the D810, etc.
 

by Steve Cirone on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:31 am
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Seems to me after reading K K Hui's list of upgrades that this is a hell of a camera for a super low price.    Combine this body with the new 300mm F 4 and the new 1.4 TC and one should have a relatively low weight BIF rig.

That said, most of the hard core Nikon BIF shooters I know have semi jumped the Nikon ship and added a Canon 7D II and the Canon 400mm F 5.6 to their gear bag for BIF.

Seems the Nikon D 810 is still king of the megapixel hill, but that could change after Canon ships the new 50 meg 5D.  This is a fun time to be a DSLR shooter with the quality up and the prices relatively low for cameras.  Never mind the ridiculous prices on the super teles though.
 
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by Gary Irwin on Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:19 am
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Neilyb wrote:This is basically the camera the D7100 should have been, possibly puts a D400 out of the picture now.
If Nikon is telling the truth about their intention to complete with the 7DII I'm thinking there's still a D400 in the works because @ 6 FPS the D7200 certainly isn't it.

And for a $1000 body, there's no way Nikon has included a pro AF module.

The D7200 may be a very satisfactory camera for many, but it's not what I want -- which is something to compete directly with the 7DII.
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by E.J. Peiker on Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:03 am
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Also note that this is the excellent Sony Exmor 24mp sensor, easily the best 24mp class sensor on the market, where the D7100 used a Toshiba sourced sensor that had a bit more pattern noise and slightly less dynamic range.
 

by Mike in O on Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:16 am
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Looks like a real winner, fixes most of the problems of the 7100. I'm glad they have a pro level 1/8000 shutter though again fps is substandard. The Sony sensor is not quite up to the Toshiba at high ISO. What I don't understand is the lack of an articulating screen, essential for video and judging by the demographics of your typical DSLR buyer very handy for getting low (and being able to get back up).
 

by E.J. Peiker on Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:42 am
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Yes, I am surprised they didn't use the D750 body with articulating screen and carbon fiber build.
 

by absu on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:33 pm
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E.J. Peiker wrote:All 51 AF points see down to -3 Ev!!!

Here is a more complete D7100 vs D7200 comparison:
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/03/02/nikon ... more-89146

And here's a bunch of propaganda videos on the 7200:
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/03/02/nikon ... more-89130
From Nikon press release it is one AF point is sensitive to -3 EV balance 50 nos are sensitive to -2 EV.
 
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by KK Hui on Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:26 pm
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E.J. Peiker wrote:Also note that this is the excellent Sony Exmor 24mp sensor, easily the best 24mp class sensor on the market, where the D7100 used a Toshiba sourced sensor that had a bit more pattern noise and slightly less dynamic range.
Where do you see a reference to Sony sensor used for D7200?
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by billg71 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:28 pm
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KK Hui wrote:.......
Where do you see a reference to Sony sensor used for D7200?
I haven't seen it actually stated anywhere(since nobody's had their hands on the camera outside of Nikon) but I've seen conjecture on several sites that because it is listed as 24.2 MP instead of 24.1, it's the same sensor as in the D5300 which is a Sony sensor.

From the DP Review article: "While Nikon wouldn't comment, we wouldn't be surprised if the D7200 uses the same Sony-manufactured CMOS sensor that is found on the D3300/D5300/D5500. If true, this will be welcome news to those who experienced banding on the D7100, which used a Toshiba sensor (that did, however, offer class-leading high ISO performance)."  E.J. may have sources that we don't so I'm not presuming to answer for him.

If you look at the DXO scores for the 5300 and 7100(their latest actual tests) the Sony sensor has a small advantage in dynamic range(1%) and a slightly larger advantage in high-ISO performance(6%) with a 1% decrease in color depth. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the DXO ratings but at least it's something to look at. There's very little difference in sensor size so their usual practice of uprezzing/downrezzing for comparison isn't a factor here, it's pretty much an apples-to-apples deal. And one would hope Sony has tweaked the sensor a bit since the D5300 came out.

My impressions are that it's a really decent camera for the price, not a world-shaking upgrade but keeping up with the state of the art. Good on you, Nikon!

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by KK Hui on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:51 pm
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A search reveals the following ...

D7200
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/slr ... /spec.html
24.72 Mp -> 24.16 Mp (effective)

D7100
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/slr ... /spec.html
24.71 Mp -> 24.10 Mp (effective)

D5300
http://www.nikon-image.com/products/slr ... /spec.html
24.78 Mp -> 24.16 Mp (effective)

So, the sensor seems different for all the three models!!!
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by E.J. Peiker on Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:26 am
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KK Hui wrote:
E.J. Peiker wrote:Also note that this is the excellent Sony Exmor 24mp sensor, easily the best 24mp class sensor on the market, where the D7100 used a Toshiba sourced sensor that had a bit more pattern noise and slightly less dynamic range.
Where do you see a reference to Sony sensor used for D7200?
Sensor dimensions are precisely the same as Sony's 24mp sensor, not Toshiba's 24mp sensor.  That makes it nearly 100% certainty that it is a Sony sourced sensor.
 

by Coreyhkh on Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:28 am
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To me this just looks like a parts bin update, they just took parts they had laying around and stuck it in this camera.
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