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by Trev on Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:20 pm
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My colour management all works fine in PS and LR and prints come out very accurate. But in windows the colours are all very saturated presumable because of the wide gamut monitor NEC Multisync. Are there any particular settings I can set to have the colours looking more natural when viewing through windows that wont affect PS or LR?
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by Royce Howland on Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:27 pm
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No, there aren't, not in terms of the operating system anyway. No version of Windows has ever been colour managed. Neither it nor any other non-colour managed app or software will look right when displaying imagery on a wide gamut display, unless you switch the monitor itself back into a narrow gamut (sRGB) mode via a monitor preset or something similar.

You can do this on NEC Spectraview's by setting up multiple configurations and switching between them. I don't know if the non-Spectraview's support this, but I think at least some do. You could try downloading the free NEC utility called MultiProfiler and see if it supports your monitor model. If it does, using this tool you can create a couple of presets, one for wide gamut calibrated use and one for narrow gamut. Switching between is relatively fast.
http://www.necdisplay.com/support-and-s ... r/Overview

Personally, I don't bother. I've just gotten used to things looking whacked in Windows itself, and don't pay any attention to it. If I want accurate image display, I look at images using software that's colour managed...
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by Trev on Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:38 pm
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Cheers Royce I thought that was the case. You would think windows would of sorted that out by now.
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by E.J. Peiker on Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:03 pm
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Trev wrote:Cheers Royce I thought that was the case. You would think windows would of sorted that out by now.
Microsoft can't even get their internet browser, the thing we look at digital content with, to manage colors right.
 

by Royce Howland on Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:58 am
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Honestly, I would prefer it if Microsoft just continued doing what they're doing -- nothing. The alternative probably would be a colour management gong show.

I don't trust most manufacturers & vendors to get things right outside of their area of core expertise and market focus. Especially with something like colour management which by definition is a system for ensuring consistent, reliable colour reproduction across all devices and systems.

It seems that colour management is part of the core expertise of very, very few vendors. So the fewer of them get in there and screw it up, the better. At least Microsoft doesn't even pretend to try at the OS level, they just leave it up to the app producers like Adobe, X-Rite or whomever. The high profile case where Microsoft has tried, Internet Explorer, is a gong show as E.J. said.

(And yes, I include Apple in the list of vendors who don't really have expertise in this. They try to be colour activist at the operating system level, and it has produced a lot of grief across many Mac OS X releases now. Perhaps most people don't care, or don't stray out of the Apple walled garden. Of those who do, perhaps many just don't notice or understand the ways in which things have gotten screwed up. But people who pay attention to details wish Apple would stop frakking things up with ColorSync because it dominoes into everything across the system. That's absolutely the territory I don't want Microsoft to get into! Colour management is not an area where you can have a release manager say "we only care about our little walled garden and we're just going to unilaterally change to doing it like X because it seems cool!")
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by E.J. Peiker on Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:10 pm
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Color Management Gong Show - ROFLMAO!

That made my morning, thanks for the belly laugh.
 

by Trev on Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:13 pm
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Good points Royce, perhaps one of the vendors that do know what there doing could design a plug-in!.
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